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Barn Cleaner??????

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SJ

04-05-2005 12:19:22




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Theres an ad in the impliment photos for a barn cleaner,what exactly is that?




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I Bleed Green

04-05-2005 15:23:31




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to SJ, 04-05-2005 12:19:22  

Take a look at this web site. Patz is one of the best barn cleaners made.



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deanop

04-05-2005 13:23:56




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to SJ, 04-05-2005 12:19:22  
as a kid, i was always excited to "throw the switch", and watch the manure go out the barn chute and drop into the manure spreader..we had a small minnesota spreader so ya had to be quick and run outside to balance the load, and then run back in the barn to keep scraping and cleaning.. i enjoyed watching it, and when 1/2 the barn was clean we'd start spreading straw and liming the floor..i think within half an hour the barn would be clean..then it was time for the spreadin.....

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Sloroll

04-05-2005 13:13:34




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to SJ, 04-05-2005 12:19:22  
If Ida advertised my wife all heck would break loose!



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Mattlt

04-05-2005 12:44:36




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to SJ, 04-05-2005 12:19:22  
A continuous length of chain ran through the gutters of a dairy barn. The manure spreader was parked under a chute outside. When the motor was turned on, the entire length of chain would start revolving, taking the manure with it, depositing it in the spreader. Typically a daily "chore" on a dairy farm.

This was an incredibly labor-saving invention; no longer having to shovel out gutters by hand.

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Allan in NE

04-05-2005 12:48:41




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Mattlt, 04-05-2005 12:44:36  
Matt,

Right. We couldn't afford one.

This is why I have one leg shorter than the other and answer to the nickname of "Smelly". :>)

Allan



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Mattlt

04-05-2005 12:52:57




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-05-2005 12:48:41  
Been there. Clean the big chunks out with a fork, then finish up the liquids with a shovel.

Only problem with the barn cleaner is when a chain breaks.

YUKK!



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Rod F.

04-05-2005 14:27:14




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Mattlt, 04-05-2005 12:52:57  
Ummmmm, and that's part of the reason why herringbone's came along. Those broken chains also contribute to language development skills.....well, new words anyway :>(

Rod



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Allan in NE

04-05-2005 12:55:17




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Mattlt, 04-05-2005 12:52:57  
How come that particuar chain always seemed to break way more often than other chains on the farm? :>)

Allan



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Mattlt

04-05-2005 13:25:44




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-05-2005 12:55:17  
Yup. Followed closely by the apron chain on the spreader.



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Farmall_Ryan

04-05-2005 14:21:52




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Mattlt, 04-05-2005 13:25:44  
Had the apron chain break more than once with a full load. Boy does that job suck. Have to pitch the maure back out until you get to the broken link then we still usually have to get a tractor and chain to pull the broken side back even so the paddles with go around the drive sprockets evenly. What a mess...don't mind it a bit though!



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M Nut

04-05-2005 18:29:13




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Farmall_Ryan, 04-05-2005 14:21:52  
I always did it the same way as Farmall_Ryan, but my neighbor showed me a new way awhile back. His spreader apron chain broke with a full load. He just took the tractor and loader and tipped the whole thing upside down in the field. Then tipped it back up again and leveled off the crap with the bucket. (didn't see close up how well the spreader faired though. He does still use it however!)



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george md

04-05-2005 12:39:43




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to SJ, 04-05-2005 12:19:22  
SJ,

That is a super duper pooper scooper.

george



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Allan in NE

04-05-2005 12:40:57




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to SJ, 04-05-2005 12:19:22  
Hi SJ,

It is a manure trough cleaner. Used to be all the rage until the herringbones came out.

Allan



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john in la

04-05-2005 13:31:25




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-05-2005 12:40:57  
Allen;
How would the installation of a herringbone have changed the use of a barn cleaner????? ??

I thought a barn cleaner was used to clean the trough that runs behind the stalls in a stall barn. Removing the pipe line milker and changing to a herringbone milking parlor would not make the use of a stall barn obsolete. Correct?????

Please educate this southern boy a little.

We only had a milking parlor and all cows stayed out side other wise so I am lost on your northern ways. The only barn cleaner we ever had was a water hose.

If some one told me they was selling their barn cleaner I would have to tell him it is against the law to sell your children. LOL!!!

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Allan in NE

04-05-2005 18:07:26




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to john in la, 04-05-2005 13:31:25  
Hi John,

Here is a picture of a herringbone (sawtooth). Take note where the business end of the cow points. :>)

Allan

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john in la

04-05-2005 19:00:52




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-05-2005 18:07:26  
Allen;
I feel you did not under stand my question OR I am missing something here.

I know full well what a herringbone looks like and how to use it. Spent many a hour in the well of a double-four stall herringbone. Ours had a grate over a gutter that ran the length of the 4 stalls and was open to the out side to a lagoon via a drain pipe. Since it was only 4 stalls long we just used a large hose to wash the gutter to the end. Or cows were kept out side on pasture except for the two times a day they were brought into the milking parlor.

I am under the impression that you northerners use what I call a stall barn to keep your cows in instead of putting them on a pasture. You could use a pipe line milker installed in the stall barn and milk the cows in their stall; or bring them to a parlor to milk them as many are doing now.

Now in this stall barn there is a gutter that runs the length of the building just behind the cows. This BARN CLEANER as you all are calling it drags a paddle down the gutter via a drive motor and a chain to a chute that loads the manure in a trailer.

The reason you would need a barn cleaner in a stall barn is because the cows are in there 24/7 and the size of the barn. (large amounts of manure) The reason we could use a hose to clean our gutter in the milking parlor was cows were in there a short time and small size. (small amount of manure)

Now to the question at hand..... .....
You said a barn cleaner was all the rage before the herringbone came out.
That just stumps me because I feel that you could use a herringbone; side opening; herringbone rotary; diamond-shaped polygon; or what ever. That all has to do with the milking parlor. You would still bring the cows back to the stall barn after milking SO the barn cleaner would still be needed. Would it not????? ????

Sorry this has gotten so long and do not mean to put you on the spot but this is one reason I love the internet. You get to see how others deal with problems you will never see.

Thank;
John

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Allan in NE

04-05-2005 19:28:18




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to john in la, 04-05-2005 19:00:52  
Yep, see what you are talking about now.

But, I've seen 'em both ways. Early on the guys didn't run the grates. Just plain cement up on the milkin' alley and it was just cleaned up with a hose.

I think nowadays the big dogs run cleaners in their loafing sheds as well as under the cow in the alley, don't they?

They tell me that up north, the cows never leave the barn. Dunno tho, quit yankin' 'em long time ago.

Allan

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kyhayman

04-05-2005 17:47:37




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to john in la, 04-05-2005 13:31:25  
It may be different in the far frozen north but here, with a stanchon barn you have 60 or 80 cows all tied side by side eating at getting milked at one time (no drains, gutters out, handle manure dry). With the parlor the cows are coming into a smaller space and have (typically here) a drain between each 2 cows (drains to lagoon, manure handled wet.



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Tim Shulyz

04-05-2005 12:49:03




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-05-2005 12:40:57  
we got one at the dairy where I work, and I LOVE IT!, save a LOT of work, Tim



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Allan in NE

04-05-2005 12:56:50




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Tim Shulyz, 04-05-2005 12:49:03  
Tim,

All the Gods in all the Heavens are watchin out for you! :>)

Allan



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Harley

04-05-2005 15:45:23




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 Re: Barn Cleaner?????? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-05-2005 12:56:50  
I got one down here. It's called Ishmal, son of Akmed, who was begat by Truro, who was begat by Akmed the elder, who was begat by, well you get the message. Works pretty good, but once every 3-4 hours he hits the floor on his throw rug and starts up with the awfulest wailing you ever heard. Likes to scare the cows plumb to death. Got chickens that won't even come on the place when he starts. Later, Harley

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