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Tires, new 6 year law

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wdtom

04-04-2005 16:47:59




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I have been hearing rumblings that make me think in the not too distant future they will pass a law saying that any tire over 6 years old is unsafe and must be replaced before you can get your vehicle inspected. I think this is a load of %$#@ and is only for the benefit of tire makers. All the tires on my two vehicles are over 6 years old. Some are probably 12 years old on the van I don't use too much. I have NEVER had a blow out. I keep my tires inflated to pressure, and don't drive crazy fast. I think the blowouts attributed to old tires are from under inflation, or damage from hitting something, curb, pothole, etc. Or both. Do you guys have any experience or opinions on this? What have you heard?

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Leroy

04-05-2005 18:28:01




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
Just replacing 3 tires on a wagon that are marked S3 and that was a ww2 mark so these tires would have to be at least 59 years old



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ErnieDD

04-05-2005 15:14:30




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
I have a 1977 Corvette. It got new tires in 1980 or there abouts. It was in storage from 1990 to 2002. Cool, dry, no sun or electric motors (ozone). On the way out of the city at 50 mph had a belt seperation. My case is probably extreme, but there was 80% of the tread left when I put new metric tires on it.



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wdtom

04-05-2005 18:14:35




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to ErnieDD, 04-05-2005 15:14:30  
Well maybe if a tire sits and isn't used it may deteriorate? This may be reasonable. I understand there is an oil in the rubber that needs flexing from use to stay evenly distributed in the rubber and keep it from cracking. I can see not selling an old tire, that is reasonable I guess. But telling me I have to get new tires because they are over 6 years old, that's shi%. And if they are making them out of a less druable compound, that's a step backwards--as are a lot of "new improved" things lately. They should be more duaable, not less.

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CLW

04-05-2005 08:48:10




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
Saw a news cast about 6 weeks ago and it said some tires set 6 years or longer before they are ever sold. That may be what they are talking about.
CLW



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Nolan

04-05-2005 03:49:02




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
Rather dubious of the claim, especially since many states do not have an inspection program.

Regardless, I've had tires break down and fail rapidly decades ago, and today. I've also had tires last for an eternity, both current and decades ago. Price usually wasn't a factor in it.



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T_Bone

04-04-2005 23:28:08




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
Hi Tom,

They changed the tire componds as couple years back and supposedly will decompose faster than before.

Here in AZ they keep telling people there taking a real chance with running tires over 5yrs old as the sun eats the rubber up here in 5yrs.

I know my 11-20 20yr old tires on my water trailer are really weather checked and looking sick.

I bought new tires 3yrs ago for my F350 so we'll see.

My car tires were 5yrs old with good tread (36k miles) but they would not balance and viberated alot.

T_Bone

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kyhayman

04-04-2005 20:26:48




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
Maybe a state thing? We havent had vehicle inspections for 30 years here unless you are bringing one in from out of state.



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Mike M

04-04-2005 18:59:14




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
I don't think the rubber used in the tires today holds up as well over the long haul. They seem to weather check real fast.



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JT

04-04-2005 17:35:06




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 16:47:59  
Have not heard anything about it, but it is typical government bull. The Feds also collect federal exise tax on tires, so if they enact this law, then they will also collect more taxes, just another way the government is taking advantage of the little guy. Whats next, you can only keep toilet paper stored for a month, then you cannot use it anymore?????



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tire_guy

04-04-2005 18:05:24




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to JT, 04-04-2005 17:35:06  
This is the result of the Firestone recall from a few years ago. After what the government did to Firestone the tire makers are running for any cover they can find. They are not sure that they may get caught in the same trap the Firestone was in. Another law that the feds have made is that all tire adjustments must be reported to the government. What this means is an end to goodwill adjustments which is what most of the new tire adjustments came under even if you didn't know it. The makers have to keep their adjustment numbers down or a recall will be triggered. Another example of big brother looking out for you.

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wdtom

04-04-2005 18:52:36




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to tire_guy, 04-04-2005 18:05:24  
Agreed, and they will sell a lot more tires too.



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tire_guy

04-04-2005 19:41:49




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 Re: Tires, new 6 year law in reply to wdtom, 04-04-2005 18:52:36  
What I remember reading about this proposed rule change is that it would be illegal to SELL a tire that is over 6 years old. It would not be illegal to use a tire that is over 6 years old. Also FET is only collected on semi truck tires and such which are hardly ever sold after they are 6 years old.



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