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minimum hp for 14' disk

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Rich Iowa

03-13-2005 17:09:03




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Looking at getting a 14' disk, at a good price hard to pass up. What is the smallest tractor I'd be able to get by with? Will be working clay-like soil. Also like the tractor to be able to mow and bale small square bales, plant and cultivate with 4 or 6 row equipment. It'd need to be easy to operate, reliable and easy on fuel. TIA




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I Know

03-14-2005 17:28:30




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
In my area a 560 or 706 Farmall will easily pull a 14 ft disk.You need around 65-70 horsepower.I disked many an acre with a 460 on a 12 ft disk.Our soil pulls fairly easy.



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JMS/MN

03-14-2005 13:04:10




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
Depends on the disk design. Years ago my neighbor pulled an 18 ft Massey with a 4230, I pulled a 14 foot JD 210 with the cone blades with a 4020. It was a full load. 3020 did a lousy job with it, while a 14 foot normal concave disc would be an even match for it.



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Loren-MN

03-14-2005 07:03:42




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
Pulled our 14'2" disk with a JD 730 gas (slightly modified, dyno 70hp). Fluid in main tires and duals. Also pulled a 13'6" with a stock 730 gas 58hp. Same setup fluid and duals.



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James2

03-14-2005 08:19:33




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Loren-MN, 03-14-2005 07:03:42  
I think you have got it about right. I pulled a 14 ft JD BWA with my 730D and it was a good match. I put it on the JD 830 and it was very undersized. I tried an 18 ft IH 480 behind the JD 830 and it was also a good match. Ran an IH 490 21 ft with tractor duals and it was all the girl could handle. Really was too much. We had a IH 370 12 ft behind a MF 265 and it could handle a little more, but not more than 14 ft.

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Dave From MN

03-14-2005 05:54:12




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
I pull an Oliver 12" with a 544 deisel Hydro in sandy soil no prob. Fluid in and 3 set tires weights. Want to get away from using the hydro for tillage so I am looking for a gear drive to add to the farm.



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TomTX

03-14-2005 05:44:24




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
What kind of "disk" are you talking about? Offse? Tandem? Tillage? Finish? Blade size? I have a 3 pt 8' tandem disk that pulls so easy, I cant tell whether it is up or down. I have a 7.5' offset disk with remote cylinder, that works my 67 HP tractor to death. With heavy pull-type offset disk, with 22 to 24 inch blades on 9 inch spacings, in our local soils, you need 10 PTO HP per foot of width to pull it right. With much less HP, you will have to constantly pull it with the wheels partly down to "assist" in keeping it partly out of the ground.

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Leroy

03-14-2005 05:28:24




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
either disc or field cultivator 4 1/2 mile per hour, no faster and I had a Keawanee 13' that is the same weight disk as the International (had a 9') and pulled either with a Ford 5000 62HP in heavy clay and small hills and it will also handle 6 row equipment (I only had 4 row on a Ford 4000 52Hp and also polled the 13" disc with that) the 5000 I had 4-14" semi mount plows for. That disc is not going out to cut first time over 6" or deeper like the newer heavier discs will so you don't need the HP that you would need for the newer heiver units

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little more info

03-14-2005 04:22:09




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
Thanks for the info allready. The disk is an IH 37, it's in good shape. I'd like to use it for disking plowed ground, chopping cornstalks, etc. From the responses so far, I should be looking for something along the line of Farmall 806, or Oliver 1800 series. Any other tractor models I should be thinking about? It will be clay-like soil the disk will be working in. P.S. If I remember right, my friend's dad has a disk just like it, maybe 12' that he pulls with a Farmall M

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Indydirtfarmer

03-14-2005 03:59:43




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
In the soil we have around here, and with a typical 14' disc, I'd say 80HP minimum, to be able and pull it at a decent speed. Take in to account, hills, weight of the disc, soil type, speed desired, and not all tractors are the same, even at the same "rated Horsepower"....



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Allan in NE

03-14-2005 04:25:32




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 03-14-2005 03:59:43  
Mornin' Ya Ol' Sot,

One thing I've learned here is that different guys in different parts of the country sure do things differently.

One feller tells me that he still follows a plow with a disc, which is a practice that I just cannot get my mind wrapped around. :>(

In addition, I have trouble with this little scenario. Why in the heck would a guy be discing a field of stalks without putting the disc in the ground?

I must be gettin' old or something, ‘cause I just don’t understand it. :>(

Allan

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Indydirtfarmer

03-14-2005 04:47:43




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 04:25:32  
Allan, Let me ease your tired mind a bit...We aren't GETTING old, we've done GOT there. Too many new ideas that just don't make sense. Old "tried and true" ones written off as "no good".

Thing is, there's 100 different ways to do this stuff with-in my home county...I'm happy with the fact that we get to no-till EVERYTHING here now.

And guess what??? A "NEW CONCEPT" is sweeping the area. Soybeans in 20" or 30" rows.... I remember when we first started solid stand drilling about 15 years ago. My dad told me that was the way they did it "way back when". Then the rage was planting them with the corn planter. That lasted YEARS. Then the drill... Now everyone is talking like planting 'em in rows is something all new and revolutionary...

Maybe if we live long enough, moldboard plows will be all the rage again. (Actually, they are making a limited comback)

Oh well....

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twopop

03-13-2005 20:03:24




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
what kind of a disc is it? it makes alot of difference.an offset disc will require more h.p. than a tandem.soils also make a difference.had a 13ft 6 inch towner and a 20 foot jd a 4430 could pull the jd but not the towner



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aFORDable

03-13-2005 19:35:33




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
I pull a 12ft. Burch disk that cuts good with a 66 hp tractor. The tractor handles it fine in similar soil as yours. If I was going to pull a 14 ft. I think I'd need at least 10 more hp to pull it like it needs to be pulled.



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Hugh MacKay

03-13-2005 19:34:34




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
Rich: Paul is right, 1.5 hp per disk blade. There is absolutely no feasable reason to pull that disk faster than 4.5 mph. Cultivator yes but not a disk. A disk is designed to cut and roll that cut, not windrow the entire 14'.

All one must do these days is drive the country roads, one will soon see who has too much horse power. I can pick it out from the road, some people just make a mess, and that is not tillage. Cultivator has it's limit also, somewhere between 6.5 and 7.5 mph. The goal is to create a smooth seed bed that remains smooth. If you cant drive a new Cadilac or Lincoln at 50 mph on your settled seed bed or hayfield you've made a mess.

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thejdman01

03-14-2005 06:33:49




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-13-2005 19:34:34  
i run a drag behind my disk and dont have any problems runnin 5-5.5. witht he drag behind it works very well. w/o a drag i definitly recommend going slower but then again i wouldnt run one anymore these days w/o a drag



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thejdman01

03-13-2005 18:43:05




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
alot has to do with how fast you want to get done and how many acres you got. im not saying you need to go 8 mph but depends if 3 mph is ok or if you want to be in the 5-6 mph range. also weight and dual or dual less will make a difference. the suggestions you have gotton so far are good. i recommend a good 100 horse tractor.



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Leroy

03-13-2005 18:20:23




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
Depends on make and model disc, older lighter disc less hp than newer heavier disc



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Paul in Mich

03-13-2005 17:37:18




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Rich Iowa, 03-13-2005 17:09:03  
Rich, Rule of thumb is 1 1/2 hp per disk. If a 14 ft double disk is spaced 8" between disks, then it has 18 disks in 14 ft. 18x2 = 36 total disks x 1.5 hp required = 54 minimum hp.



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Mikeinky

03-13-2005 18:14:59




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Paul in Mich, 03-13-2005 17:37:18  
If I were going to pull a 14" disk, I would want at least 100 Hp. I used to pull a 16" with a 120 HP tractor and that wasn't any too much. Now I pull a 11" with 70 horse and I wouldn't want any less horse power



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James2

03-14-2005 08:27:39




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Mikeinky, 03-13-2005 18:14:59  
I don't know what kind of disk you are pulling, but I pull a 21 ft IH 490 7 1/2 inch spacing with harrow, behind a MM G950 diesel (100 bhp) at 5.5 to 6 mph without taxing the tractor. Pull it any faster and it ridges.



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Can't even use my name

03-13-2005 18:31:18




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 Re: minimum hp for 14' disk in reply to Mikeinky, 03-13-2005 18:14:59  
Before we went to no-till we used to pull 20' disks with Case 1070's all the time and they are only 108 horse. Not too big but big enough.



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