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Loader Counter Weight

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jdcrawlerdog

03-09-2005 04:34:40




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Looking for the best way to add weight to the rear of a tractor when using a loader. This is a JD 420W with a #35 loader. Loaded tires, wheel weights or something off of the three point hitch? Not trying to split it in half, just looking for stability. Any thoughts? Thanks.




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Mac

03-11-2005 04:23:31




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
I built a 3pt carrier for 55gal plastic drum that weighs about 450lbs when filled with H2O. Added a 3' length of garden hose with gate valve to fill thru bung and siphon water to empty. Easy to deal with when not in use, just empty it, unlike concrete and rocks. Nice for watering trees also. With loaded tires it gives good stability. Plan to make a double drum carrier when it warms some.



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leland

03-09-2005 13:48:24




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
Crawler dog a 55 gal drum full of concrete make a handy counter weight and it is easy to build and this will hold her down.



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paul

03-09-2005 13:22:12




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
I use liquid in the tires to counter the loader (or wheel weights), and hang something on the 3pt for when I'm really using the loader.

As someone else said, weight on the 3pt helps shift some weight off the front axle, pivoting on the rear axle....

Use plenty. I prefer a weight box like the barrel mentioned, takes up less room & I typically have to manuver in tight with a loader.

--->Paul

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Roger in Iowa

03-09-2005 08:10:09




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
By putting ballast on the 3 point, it takes weight off of the front tires making it easier to steer. Does not require as much weight because it transfers weight. True the wheel bearings on the rear see the weight as opposed to water in tires and wheel weights.

Unless you need the weight all the time, go to the ballast on the 3 point as you can easily take it off.

my $0.02
Roger in Iowa



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old

03-09-2005 08:04:43




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
I use a back blade with 6 suit case weights on the blade, that way you also have enough weight on the blade to make it work well also



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Bernie in MA

03-09-2005 06:06:30




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
What they do around here is put a rod thru a barrel about a foot from the bottom so you can pin it thru the lift arms, then weld a tab near the top for the top link. You can put as much sand/rocks in it as you need.



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RustyFarmall

03-09-2005 05:50:43




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
Quite often the owners manual for the loader will give some very good ideas on proper ballast for the tractor. Most often these are minimum requirements. If you do not have the manual, then I think at least two sets of rear wheel weights, plus filling the tires. I really don't like the idea of a ballast box on the 3 point hitch, it doesn't put the weight where it will do the most good. Wheel weights and fluid in the tires would be the recommended way to go.

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Allan in NE

03-09-2005 05:28:56




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 Re: Loader Counter Weight in reply to jdcrawlerdog, 03-09-2005 04:34:40  
Hi JD,

There is an old saying, "It takes weight to move weight".

Dunno, I've never been around your size of outfit, but I would assume that the same rules apply. I use fluid and 2 sets of wheel weights both; made a heck of a difference up here in these hills.

Allan



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