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Dug

03-02-2005 20:33:00




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How many of you guys burn your fields this time of year? What benefits do you see from it? I have been told that if you wait until the weeds germinate it will kill the weeds and let your grass grow in thicker.

I don't know if it really helps, I just like seeing the fields glowing!

Dug the Pyro




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FarmerDave

03-03-2005 09:51:51




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Dug, 03-02-2005 20:33:00  
Burning off the litter makes some nutrients readily available and can raise the soil temp causing the grass to start faster.

I burn as much as I have time for, which ain't much. A drip torch works bettern a propane deal.



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Hugh MacKay

03-03-2005 18:31:05




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to FarmerDave, 03-03-2005 09:51:51  
Dave That is a bunch of crap. Whoever in this world ever told you that.



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buickanddeere

03-03-2005 05:33:27




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Dug, 03-02-2005 20:33:00  
We acidentally brought the whole town out for a sight seeieng trip one evening. As flax straw won"t breakdown for ploughing and nobody wanted it for straw bedding. We pushed 25 acres of straw up into a dozen piles. The piling was finished shortly after dusk. Then we lit the straw..... ..... ..... .... The whole field was lit up as bright as an overcast day but orange in colour. The heat could be felt hundreds of yards away. That was in the days before there were burn permits etc. The following years we made certain the combine"s straw chopper was functional.

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Hugh MacKay

03-03-2005 03:07:33




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Dug, 03-02-2005 20:33:00  
Dug: I think what you have in this question is another one of those geographic items. There are places where fire is a benefit and other areas where it definately is not a good practice.

In more northern climates we like to have a good growth die down in fall. It protects the young grass from spring frosts. What can happen is early warm days can start growth, then it can turn cold again. When I say cold I'm talking single digit F numbers. That will kill the new grass if exposed. Soon as the risk of severe frost is gone you hit it with A/N and the old growth just disintergrates. We also find fire does as much damage to grass as it does to the weeds. Some of the most weed infested pastures I've ever seen were burned every year.

As I said earlier don't think the same rules apply everywhere. Climate is everything.

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TedD

03-03-2005 08:43:51




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-03-2005 03:07:33  
Hugh, What you said really caught my attention. Some one told me once it was good to leave some hay growth on the field for the winter. The person could not tell me why but always felt that. Now it makes sense. I would consider myself "north" and a few years ago I got greedy and clipped a late third cutting of hay off of a field. The spring conditions must have been ideal to do bad for the early growth in this particular field because the hay grop was poor and it was a young field. I always wondered if my late cutting is what hurt me now I think it was. I will certainly be more careful in the future, just one of those lessons. Thanks for your input.

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Hugh MacKay

03-03-2005 17:52:52




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to TedD, 03-03-2005 08:43:51  
Ted: A number of years back, I had a next door neighbor. You would see him out with the ride on lawn mower at the first fall of snow, and in the spring I think he almost needed a snow blower on front to clear the way. He made more ruts in the lawn than one could even imagine. Then his lawn looked like H@## all summer. He could never understand how my lawn could look so much better. I told him if you would park that damn mower during times your grass is under stress, your lawn would look good Two rules I alway adhered to; never mow grass in spring until it's 6" high, and in fall stop mowing 3 weeks before first killing frost. Doesn't matter whether it's lawn or hayfield. That fall mowing rule is a must with legumes, but doesn't hurt to do the same with grasses.

A lot of people say that old layer of brown grass is ugly and hurting growth. So many times in climates with winter we get early nice warm weather, then in two weeks back to winter for a spell. Nice to have that new grass and legumes covered by the old growth. After that is over hit it with an application of A/N. The old growth will decompose quickly and it will tickle the feet of the new. Man may not have spring tonic, but his grass surely does.

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paul

03-03-2005 11:53:46




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to TedD, 03-03-2005 08:43:51  
I had a poor new crop of alfalfa this past summer - nurse crop went crazy & chocked it, we had poorly timed rains for me to do much about it.

Anyhow I took a late September cutting off it. Not sure the field would have survived winter. My cutting made that even less likely, but we will see. I wanted some hay off it, see what I need to do this spring.

Burn fields now? How do you get the fire to light under the snow?????

--->Paul

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kyhayman

03-02-2005 21:54:39




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Dug, 03-02-2005 20:33:00  
We dont burn here. It is a very good practice to manage warm season grass pastures as the prairie grasses evolved under a fire eco system. My fields are so short nothing there to burn, if there was, I'd buy more cows. At my dads place I have thought about using one of those flamers (propane tank mounded behind a tool bar with a burner set) to control cedars and hawthorne that as a constant pest in the pasture. His pastures are like mine, picked clean.

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patrick

03-02-2005 21:09:25




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Dug, 03-02-2005 20:33:00  
work good for the new grass and better crop. ware i live here in s.e. pa the fire dept will burn for us. only 3 ac at a time. and with permit. call your f/d and ask them about it . in my town you can burn crop or pasture land w/permit. and you must meet all saftey reg to do so. i remember when the farmers would lite 10 or 15 ac up at a time!!! as well as the woods, barn. house,. things got hairy so they made us get permits and if you get f/d to burn it for you it give the young guys good skills to fight fires. also you may need a fire pond. as we have a 100x50x12 hear on farm that was a must to build to get any coverage. dont tell you state farm guy you burn!! he will have a fit!! and one more good thing to do after you burn rake land hard to pull up roots. when you do this it will make the spray job better becouse it will kill more before you plant. most dont rake. or you can also disk land after burn . really worth the time and your spray will work mutch better. hope this helps ya friend!! good luck and dont get to close to fire!!

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dhermesc

03-03-2005 05:36:36




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to patrick, 03-02-2005 21:09:25  
In Kansas the entire Flint Hills area goes up in flames every year. There are even signs posted on the Turnpike warning drivers to slow down in dense smoke. Hundreds if not thousands of acres go up in a single controlled burn. My little 80 hadn't been burned in 8 years when I bought it, cedar trees where just starting to make their presence known, burning the place cleaned that mess up.



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leland

03-02-2005 20:52:30




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to Dug, 03-02-2005 20:33:00  
Now is the time we burn around here,but due to the fact that it's to wet to work ground to make a fire break around field it will wait. But burning only kills whats on top and there are billions of seeds waiting to be brought up to sprout after ground has been worked . But it does really help pastures grow better by getting rid of trash.



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fredo.

03-02-2005 21:01:36




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to leland, 03-02-2005 20:52:30  
what about lost hummus in your soil if you burn.'m not a tree hugger either. fredo.



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leland

03-02-2005 21:11:39




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 Re: OT - Burning fields in reply to fredo., 03-02-2005 21:01:36  
True but fertlizer is cheaper than weed killer.



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