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Dan Mitchell

02-27-2005 13:31:24




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Anyone who could assist me in identifying a BF Avery tractors model and year. I have several numbers taken from the tractor. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Also, When i get the tractor identified, I'd like to find a manual or website where one could be found. Thank you




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Gary Duff

02-27-2005 19:05:24




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Dan Mitchell, 02-27-2005 13:31:24  
Here are 2 web sites with the information you want.

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http://www.horizonview.net/~kault195/page-1.htm



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Dan Mitchell Tupelo, Ms.

02-27-2005 19:08:43




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Gary Duff, 02-27-2005 19:05:24  
thank you very much. You've helped me a great deal.

Dan



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J. Schwiebert

02-27-2005 17:37:38




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Dan Mitchell, 02-27-2005 13:31:24  
You should also get in contact with the Tru-Draft Club. They cator to the B. F.Avery, The Wards Twin Row The Cletrac General and the BF Molines. There are three basic models of the Avery tractors. The Model A , the R which is the 4 speed and the smaller V. Questions?



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Dan Mitchell Tupelo, ms.

02-27-2005 19:10:06




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-27-2005 17:37:38  
thank you very much for your quick response. This will help me a great deal.

Dan



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jdemaris

02-27-2005 14:58:09




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Dan Mitchell, 02-27-2005 13:31:24  
Maybe someone will correct me on this, but aren't the Avery BFs and the Minne Moline BFs the same tractors and both actually Cleveland Tractor Co. built machines? I scrapped a few Avery BFs since most of the parts fit my Cletrac HG crawlers. Same Hercules engines, same Clark three-speed transaxles, same PTOS, etc. Pretty much a Cletrac on wheels - maybe a clone of the Cleveland General?



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Dan Mitchell Tupelo, Ms.

02-27-2005 19:16:45




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-27-2005 14:58:09  
I'm really new to all this, really. But, i think you might be correct on the two being the same tractor. I'm learning as i go on this. This is my first attempt at a restoration. I'm just beginning to find serial numbers and trace it down to the year and model. Thank you for your quick response and your help. It will help me a great deal, i'm sure.

Dan



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J. Schwiebert

02-27-2005 17:43:40




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-27-2005 14:58:09  
The Cletrac General was sold by Cleveland in 1942. I think if you realy dig ino the sale, Uncle Sam may have had a hand in it. Remember this is war time and Cletrac could not keep up with military orders and that is where the John Deere built Cletracs come in at. I looked at a war years stock report for Cleveland tractor one time and they made mention that parts common to the HG and the departed General now B. F. Avery A were manufactured for B. F. Avery by Cletrac. There are quite a few changes in the Moline BF models. Questions?

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Dan Mitcehll Tupelo, Ms.

02-27-2005 19:20:40




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-27-2005 17:43:40  
thank you for your quick response. The knowledge you've passed on will truely assist me in this project. Is there a way to find out exactly what model it is.? The tractor has the wide front end and i'm told it could be a V

Thank you again
sincerely
Dan



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jdemaris

02-27-2005 19:35:25




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Dan Mitcehll Tupelo, Ms., 02-27-2005 19:20:40  
We've got three or four of them in pile of pieces in our "Cletrac graveyard." Noticed a few minor differences in some of the parts when swapping with Cletrac HG or OC3 crawlers. All the engines are Herules IXB-3s. For some reason, the PTO gears are diffent. They swap okay as a set, though. Anyway, here is blurb about the B.F. Avery from one of Wendel's books: "Beginning about 1942, B.F. Avery offered their "A" tractor; it was a dead-ringer for the Cletrac General GG tractor. About 1945 the company again announced their Model V tractor, a small one-plow tractor. Early models used a Hercules IXB-3 four cylinder engine with a 3 1/4 X 4 inch bore and stroke. Later models carried a Hercules 3" X 4" engine. Production ended with the Model R, announced in 1950. It used a Hercules four cylinder 133 c.i. engine, and also featured the Avery Tru-Draft hitch system. Minneapolis-Moline bought out B.F. Avery in 1951."

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Don Ward

10-27-2005 15:16:15




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-27-2005 19:35:25  
If you haave some parts for a hercules ixb3r, Ilost all the valve keepers on mine and am seeking some , they are wedged shaped,i think please let me know if you can help me, Don Ward



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J. Schwiebert

02-28-2005 04:08:48




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-27-2005 19:35:25  
Make yourself a correction in Wendel's book. The model V uses a ZX Hercules and smaller final drive. It is also a Clark and is the same one used in the Massey Poney.



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jdemaris

02-28-2005 06:21:50




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-28-2005 04:08:48  
Are you saying the MF Pony has a Clark transmission? I'm just getting ready to go look at one, but it's a French MF Pony with a two-cylinder diesel in it. I've got an almost new gas Pony motor stored in my barn - Continental as I recall.



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J. Schwiebert

02-28-2005 08:43:27




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-28-2005 06:21:50  
I do not know about the French Pony. Probably 10 years ago I did part of a project for the winter meeting of the Tru-Draft Club on parts for those Clark units. At that time Clark was also under the Dana umbrella . I got in contact with a man that had worked for Clark up in Michigan who now had been transfered to Statesville. He sent me a box of stuff on those 2 units. He has since retired and Clark production is beiong transfered to another Clark plant, The Avery V is a Clark T-50 as well as the M-H Pony. And that may be the axle model number. I lost a lot of that when my basement flooded. Clark made those units for more OEM's than what you realize. Yes the pony has a Continental N-62 engine. The Avery used a ZXB Hercules. I think they are 61 cubic inch. Questions? P. S.I have been trying to think of the model number of the Clark unit in the Cletrac. It is based on its torque capacity

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Brady Turcotte

02-27-2005 16:15:54




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-27-2005 14:58:09  
if you send me the number on the frame by the transaxle i could tell you the year and where to find a manual for it.
and the minni moline bf the avery and the cletrac are all the same basic tractor to say your correct.



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Dan Mitchell Tupelo, Ms.

03-05-2005 06:35:12




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Brady Turcotte, 02-27-2005 16:15:54  
hi Brady...the serial number is 6v-945



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Dan Mitchell

02-27-2005 19:54:19




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Brady Turcotte, 02-27-2005 16:15:54  
I'll look again for the number. The numbers i have found so far are, for instance, on the right side of the transaxle, just under the seat, on the gear housing. There is a stamp that says Tru-Draft and "out.it" just underneath...(not too legible). On either side of the transaxle, underneath each side of the seat, it says V-LK-KL. Under the seat on the right side, there is a number stamped up-side-down "205865". On the left side of the shift, it says, VT-386. These may or not help you but i'll look again for the number by the transaxle.


thank you very much
Dan

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Brady Turcotte

02-27-2005 16:15:53




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to jdemaris, 02-27-2005 14:58:09  
if you send me the number on the frame by the transaxle i could tell you the year and where to find a manual for it.
and the minni moline bf the avery and the cletrac are all the same basic tractor to say your correct.



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Al in Mn

02-27-2005 19:27:19




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Brady Turcotte, 02-27-2005 16:15:53  
B. F. Avery was bought up by Minneapolis Moline and they continued to the Avery tractor for a while.



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Dan Mitchell

02-28-2005 06:10:48




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Al in Mn, 02-27-2005 19:27:19  
Thanks, Al. As soon as i can get this tractor cleaned up, i can begin retrieving all the numbers and get a manual. I've recieved many,many responses here and i really appreciate it;

Dan



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Dan Mitchell Tupelo, Ms

03-04-2005 05:11:07




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 Re: BF Avery indentification in reply to Dan Mitchell, 02-28-2005 06:10:48  
Okay,.thanks guys. Thanks to all of you for your valuable info. You've helped me determine i have a 1952 Minniapolis Moline. In the process now of having the carb rebuilt. I hope to have it running in a matter of days. Apprehensive about cranking it because of sitting for many years in a barn,..i poured a bit if diesel in each cylinder and let it set for about a week. I put a hot battery on and hit the switch. To my surprise, it turned over and spewed the diesel out of the exhaust, which is a good sign that it wasn't locked up and it has good compression. Thanks for all your help. I still haven't located a service maunal or restoration literature.

Dan

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