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37 chief

02-18-2005 01:04:17




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I have a Ford F350 that is almost always hooked up to my trailer for hauling my tractor I use in my mowing business. I have been thinking of getting another truck for running around. I saw a 96 Ford F 150 with a V 6 and a standard trans. It is a Eddie Bauer edition, It has 90,000 mi. the guy wants 4,000. Do you folks think this is a good price? Stan




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Dug

02-18-2005 17:37:03




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
Hi Stan,

Depending on where you live, check the value on one of the three automotive valuation sources. Kelley Blue Book for the west, NADA for the midwest or Black book for the east. NADA is the book I use when determining automobile values for lending purposes in the midwest.

$4,000 sounds like a very fair price.

Dug



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Dave in Mo

02-18-2005 11:31:37




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
I have 182K on my F-150 '94 model with the inline 300 w/ 5 speed box. I bought it new and have averaged 17.2 miles per since. I've recorded every drop of gas thru it, over 10,500 gallons!
It's been a great motor and the looks of it reminds me of one of the Oliver 1800's engines.



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JT

02-18-2005 09:33:29




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
Go to www.kbb.com and fill in the blanks to get a value.
I put in the following and came up with a private party sale value of $3280.00 at my business zip code.
1996 ford F150 long bed, 4.9 6 cylinder, 5 speed manual tranny, Eddie Bauer pkge, Air cond, power steering, power windows, power door locks, tilt, cruise, 90,000 mile and good condition.there are a lot of options you did not mention, but you can go to this web sight and plug in your info and get a price. they do have retail, trade in price, and private party sale. Show retail avaerage of $5000.00. That is average of what it would be worth if bought off dealer lot and having been checked in their shop.

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supergrumpy

02-18-2005 12:02:56




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to JT, 02-18-2005 09:33:29  
KBB and Edmunds are great for comparing different models and such, very good resource

in my own experience, when you try to find an actual really for sale vehicle at their "prices", you get your eyes opened real fast, same experience with trying to get a dealer to pay their "trade-in values"

maybe I just keep meeting up with bandits



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dhermesc

02-18-2005 13:19:56




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to supergrumpy, 02-18-2005 12:02:56  
Kelly Blue Book is somewhat accurate on their "Trade" value but their "Retail" sales price has nothing to do with reality. According to them dealers make on average 50% to 100% profit on every vehicle that comes through. Got to remember this is a service generated by dealers, for dealers to be used by consumers to price a car - who do you think its going to favor?

I recently traded a 1992 Grand Marquis on a 2004 Chrysler Stratus. The Stratus was priced at KKB and the lot at $14,800. My smoking GM was worth maybe $1000, trade differance $10,400. On the sales sheet it showed sales price of $14,800 - $4,400 (trade) = $10,400 Cash. Reported to KKD as a $14,800 sale, but trade values of 12 year old Grand Marquis isn't adjusted up to $4,400.

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GregCo

02-18-2005 08:34:47




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
I had a half-ton with a 300, 4 speed and 3.73 gears in the rear. That truck refused to die. At 300,000 miles I sold it and it still did not smoke and ran as strong as ever. It would always pull anything I asked it to and would run in the hills with the V-8 pickups and burn a heck of a lot less gas. That engine makes good torque but doesn’t quite have the scat that the V-8’s do, but once you get it going it will do the job very well.
In my opinion Ford messed up when they quit using that engine. It was a real good one and would out last the rest of the truck. As far as price, if it is clean and not all beat up I would say go for it.

Greg

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The Dukester

02-18-2005 08:05:36




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
Funny, my farmer friend I help with planting and combining every year has an old '89 F-150 with the 300 six and standard tranny and it's the cheapest thing to run on the farm. It gets 18-20 mpg hauling the fuel tank around to service the equipment and go for parts etc. With the overdrive and speed control it's actually easy to drive after you're in high OD cruising. A cousin of mine had the 300 six in an old Bronco he had and always said it was really good on gas..20 mpg or so. Sure, when you're working it, it'll burn gas..it's work for it to pull loads that are easy for the big V-8 gas hogs to pull...I know, I gotta truck with a 460 in it...talk about a gas hog!

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caseyc

02-18-2005 07:08:27




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
i agree with the post below about the 300-6 being a great motor. i own a '90 f150 4x4 with 170,000 miles on it now. i bought it in '96 with 60,000 miles on it. i disagree on the gas milage. i average 18-20 mpg. it doesn't do any heavy pulling though. it's just a run around farm truck.

casey in SD



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Oliver farmer

02-18-2005 07:02:11




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
The 300 is a real good motor, but like they said gets bad gas milage. Mine lasted over 300,000 miles, a fair amount of it hooked to a hay wagon or hauling a load. I don't think the price is unreasonable, especially if it is a nice looking truck. I have been looking for something similar, and that seems to be the going price maybe even a little low, at least around here.



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Rodney A. Johnson

02-18-2005 06:26:48




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
I have a '92 4x4 F150 custom, 4.9L (inline 6), standard transmission, regular cab, that was only worth about 3000USD blue book a couple years ago.

I have 185,000 on it and have pulled 24' tri-axle flatbed with a LIGHT load of equipment. Driving what I consider a safe speed for such a small pickup, I get about 12 mpg at around 50 mph in 4th.

Also have pulled a light built cattle/horse 20' gooseneck. I was able to pull this up to 70 mph in 4th getting around 11 mpg.

It is a good strong engine. It does like its fuel, and won't go very fast, but it will get the job done. I won't sell mine, as was my first new vehicle, and is worth more to me then it is to anyone else.

However, if you want a good puller for cheap price that is what I'd look for. I will agree a chevy 4.3 v-6 will pull faster, but it will drop down to 10 mpg or worse. My '92 out pulls (mpg wise) then my brother's '99 chevy 4.3 1500 2 wheel drive automatic.

Have a cousin that has a 92 4x4 1500 with 4.3 with 350,000+ miles and has pulled a lot of farm equipment/trailers. Has standard transmission, short box, and extended cab. I still beat him in mileage when pulling.

Now I have F350 6.0L diesel, dually, manual 5 speed,long box extended cab, 4x4...pulling same 20' gooseneck, get 12 mpg when empty...better when loaded. But, lot nicer to drive...less stress on long trips.

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Kevin (FL)

02-18-2005 05:55:09




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
37 chief,

That"s a decent price, but you might be able to get one for under $4K. If you provide a few more details like condition, # of doors, 2WD or 4WD, we could do a better job checking the price.



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dhermesc

02-18-2005 05:55:03




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
A 1996 F150 will have the 300 I6 - not a V6. The 300 is a tough durable engine that will out pull a 302 V8 and outlast anything else Ford put in a pickup except maybe a diesel. The down side is their fuel mileage is the pits - at best about 14-16 mpg on a well tuned/maintained one and as low as 9-10 mpg on one thats seen some neglect or high miles. To get some decent mileage (in those years) you have to go down to a V6 Ranger. I hate saying this but a Chevy with the 4.3 V6 well be much better for the job you have in mind.

The price seems a little high for a 2WD of that year also - but condition could be the differance.

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Jonboy

02-18-2005 06:46:52




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to dhermesc, 02-18-2005 05:55:03  
Like dhermesc says, it would be a 300ci straight six and not a V-6. Ford never used V6's in their half tons, they did away with those 6 cylinders now and are using all V8's. In my opinion and whoever has had any experience with the 300 straight 6, it was the toughest engine ford ever built, and the life expectancy for their first rebuild is around 300,000 miles, they last about twice as long as the 302. Heck of an engine, I had one in a 1989 F150 with a 4spd manual as a high school beater, I flogged that engine every day, even ran it low on oil due to a little leak the engine had and didn't kill it. As far as for power, it wasn't the most powerful truck on earth, but it wasn't bad with the 4:10 gears and I used to it haul scrap with a couple of times and had it loaded down so the bumper would be about half a foot off the ground, it went alright, I always took my sweet time when I had it loaded down like that so as not to destroy the truck. I had to replace it when the fenders got so bad you could throw a cat through them and the bottom of the door had rusted away and actually fallen off and it wouldn't pass inspection by a long shot, so I bought a 1996 Chevy with a 4.3L V6, and that has alot more power empty, but when I pull our flatbed trailer with a 4,000lb tractor on it, it gives pretty poor performace and that straight 6 will out pull it.

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Bryan in Iowa

02-18-2005 11:42:07




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to Jonboy, 02-18-2005 06:46:52  
Ford used 4.2 V6 in some late 96 trucks and 97and up . Not near the engine the inline 6 was, IMO



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dhermesc

02-18-2005 13:32:49




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to Bryan in Iowa , 02-18-2005 11:42:07  
I wouldn't own a 97-2000 (or 2002?) Ford with the 4.2 V6 unless its been rebuilt. Those years have a nasty habit of blowing head gaskets and still don't get much for fuel mileage. Ford has spent a lot of money denying the problems with these engines.

The 300 I6 (4.9L) was too long for the new (in 97) body style and was having problems meeting the increasingly strict emissions standards. One problem the Ford F150 with a 300 I6 has is the manual 5 speed, it's a Mazda designed (and built?) transmission that has a tendency to fail. The construction company I work at had seven 1996 F150s with 5 speeds, three had the transmissions replaced by 90K. These pickups never saw much towing or hauling but were driven pretty hard (hired hands driving someone else's vehicle). I know there's a lot of others with "0" problems but ask any trannie shop and they'll just smile.

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Drill

02-18-2005 04:42:15




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 37 chief, 02-18-2005 01:04:17  
Sound like a reasonable deal, but I wouldn't pull anything with it, not enough power. Should be fairly economical for a "runnung around" truck



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4.2LV6

02-18-2005 08:39:30




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to Drill, 02-18-2005 04:42:15  
4.2L V6 is that the engine in the truck?

Don't know anything about that engine.

Already having a pulling truck and looking for an economy truck. I'd go with a F250(ideally--higher resale)/F150 4x4 manual hubs,302 5speed(not the Mazda), if I were'nt going to tow a thing 3.08(?) rear if I were going to tow a light load 3.55. You will get 17-20 mpg on the highway. Around town it'll be low teens. Probably be an early 90's truck. The inline 6 is great engine. It just does not do as well fuel wise and when you alreay have a F350 and just want an economy truck ...


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Buying a used truck. I'd want to take a serious look at it starting with the wheels,brakes,rearend,clutch and going forward. $$ add up quick. Know that from past experiences.

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Stickler

02-18-2005 19:26:15




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 Re: Ford truck in reply to 4.2LV6, 02-18-2005 08:39:30  
I have a 90 F150 SC 4X4 with a 302, 5spd & 3.55 gears. That thing is the most gutless POS I've ever driven in my life. And in 260,000 km, I've never once got more than 15mpg Imperial. This is normal highway driving, at 60mph. Only towed with it once, it was so sucked out I never tried again. My 89, identical truck but with the 300 outpulls it easily and gets well over 20. My FIL's 90 1 ton welding truck with 460, 5spd & 3.55 gets 18 and it weighs 14,000 pounds with the custom welding deck and welders on board!

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