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Re:Tractor Flips

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JoeK

02-16-2005 07:25:01




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Not to beat a horse to death,but I feel that besides lack of experience/knowledge of safe operations,a major factor can be modifications that commonly occur.Now to start with,I grew up with Fergies and Fords and Pop had me draggin wagons and rakin hay with a 9N by 2nd grade.Until my teens,we never had a tractor with a rigid drawbar,just the 3pt,BUT always used with stabilizer links.We also drug firewood and pulp logs,sometimes using ARP traks,but I don't recall ever having a near miss flipover.
Tractors were designed to a specification,ie:the Ns were designed to pull a two bottom plow or equivelant load as built.However the whole equation changes with bigger tires,fluid weight,wheel weights added to reduce slippage or make the tractor"exceed it's design".When a tractor spins out attempting a task,it has exceeded it's "design"capability.Adding massive weight to the rears does increase it's capability,but at some cost to safety as more traction causes more likelyhood of rearing,than spinning out.It's a fine point of balance that only experience teaches.Picking the wrong gear for the load is important too.While 1st may be the way to go on a stock/unloaded tractor,with fluid/weights maybe you'd be better to use a higher gear/less throttle(better to lug the engine,than flip the tractor),mebbe chains(not used cuz they're a bother)would be the way to go,rather than weight.I see too many "yuppie bait"used tractors on the lots with 1/2 ton of iron hangin on em.My eye says used/abused,not"tough tractor".In short,all I'm sayin is that any driveline mods,weight/tiresize/hp can all change the behavior of the tractor.And of course"proper tool for the job"means though you MAY be able to drive rail spikes with a tack hammer,it's better to use a BFH.
BTW our plow tractor got fluid installed for plowin,removed the rest of the year to barrels.

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Lou

02-16-2005 08:35:25




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 Re:Tractor Flips in reply to JoeK, 02-16-2005 07:25:01  
I find any discussion of tractor safety worthwhile even if all it does is scare me a little so I slow down and think befor I get in the seat. I just happend recently to start leaving a clevice attached to the draw bar so im not tempted tp hook to the three point arms.Im a relitive newbie, but over the past 15yrs Ive scared myself a couple of times,these discussions are a much safer way to learn. thanks

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Dave (IL)

02-16-2005 08:23:55




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 Re:Tractor Flips in reply to JoeK, 02-16-2005 07:25:01  
Good points JoeK, and I appreciate your input.

I did officially declare "The horse is dead"! Don't want to drive any remaining friends nuts.



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

02-16-2005 15:57:20




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 Re:Tractor Flips in reply to Dave (IL), 02-16-2005 08:23:55  
You can get the front end up with Ford an Fergies by using the draw bar with the adjustment up but they won,t go over backward as long as you are using the lower bars. I loved to speed shift our little Ford Ferg. with a plow or culivator on the back and get the front wheels off the ground for six feet or so. Never did it with dad watching. Good old days remembered.



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Ian Davies

02-18-2005 01:32:51




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 Re:Tractor Flips in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 02-16-2005 15:57:20  
Turned my tractor on its side last month on the side of a bank it was a little scary having to hold on as it slowly started to tip then it went with a rush. Fortunately I had a safety frame which prevented it from continuing to roll upside down and I escaped unharmed. GOt a 12 ton digger to turn it back up. I had prided myself up to then with not having ever had a real accident



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