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OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column

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Kirk Grau

02-04-2005 18:28:11




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OK,

I know there a few GMC experts that hang out here.

I have a "94 Suburban. Yesterday the turn signals stopped working, changed the flasher, still not working. Thinking I need to try to get at the switch in the steering column. How do you get into it? I am sure there is a trick or is it something you need know a secret handshake to receive the knowledge required.

Thanks in advance,

Kirk

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Butcher

02-05-2005 07:37:44




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Kirk Grau, 02-04-2005 18:28:11  
crw is right. There is a fuse block in the engine compartment on the drivers side. Thats were you will find your blown fuse.



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caseyc

02-05-2005 07:14:52




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Kirk Grau, 02-04-2005 18:28:11  
well since nobody has told you how to get in the column here goes. the horn cover will pop off. then take the big center nut off and mount up a steering wheel puller to pop the wheel. then you need a type of press that screws onto the main center shaft and pushes the plate down so you can get the clip off thats around the main shaft. once your that far it should be a cake walk. just remember what order you pulled stuff out in and put it back in the same. the multifunction switch is mounted with three screws. the lever will seperate from the switch before you remove the switch. the trick is getting the wires up and back down the column. alot of electrical tape and a coat hanger will be required. good luck and hollar if anything else is needed.

casey in SD

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RayP(MI)

02-05-2005 15:41:08




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to caseyc, 02-05-2005 07:14:52  
Had to take one apart on my '83 Siera PU a few months back to replace the turn signal switch. Caseyc has it pretty well wrapped up. I had a dickens of a time removing the wires from the switch down the column to the bottom of the dash where they exit the column. Finally had to resort to cutting the wires and removing pieces fromm topa nd bottom. Not pretty. Better plan on plenty of time for this operation. Thinking I had to come up with some kind of a homebrew puller to remove the steering wheel as well. Been a while.
Helps to have the shop manual!

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Allan in NE

02-05-2005 07:24:00




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to caseyc, 02-05-2005 07:14:52  
Hi Casey, How's things up north?

Don't forget the column mount saddle has to come down outta there too because that darned loom lives above it.

Darned nasty job if you have never done it before. :>(

Allan



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Kirk Grau

02-05-2005 07:56:54




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Allan in NE, 02-05-2005 07:24:00  
OK,

That description was enough to convince me that it needed to be done by a professional with the correct tools, etc. I don't mind paying to have things done if I don't have the right experience, tools, you know the rest.

On the bright side, I had checked the fuses the other night at dusk and was fooled. When I took another look at them in the light of day this morning I found the culprit. Thanks to everybody who encouraged me to make sure I had eliminated the obvious solutions. I thought I had, but it never hurts to take a fresh look at things. A $0.25 fuse was not too painful. I also have an extra flasher now.

Kirk

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crw

02-04-2005 20:44:43




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Kirk Grau, 02-04-2005 18:28:11  
have 99. had same problem in summer. if you have owner manual check for fuse locations. there is a fuse box in the engine compartment also. I checked out about 5 fuses before I found the blown one. a whole lot simpler than taking a steering column apart which can be a royal pain.



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CLW

02-04-2005 19:38:38




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Kirk Grau, 02-04-2005 18:28:11  
Kirk, I would try and prove everything else good before taking the column apart. Do you have fuse boxes in more than one location? (under dash and hood) Does the turn signal lever feel different than in the past? (loose) You may try a known good flasher as you CAN get a bad (new) one.
CLW



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Kirk Grau

02-04-2005 19:54:51




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to CLW, 02-04-2005 19:38:38  
Hazard lights work and all lamps are working so I don't think it would be a fuse. I will try another flasher just to make sure I did not pick up a bad one. The signal lever feels the same as it always has. I am open to other suggestions and I don't have a desire to attack the column unless everything else is eliminated. The Chrysler we used to have had a pretty accessible column (I replaced the ignition lock cylinder once) so I have mucked around inside another one. I am just not seeing how to gain access to this one.

Thanks for any ideas you might have.

Kirk

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Bubba

02-04-2005 18:41:58




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Kirk Grau, 02-04-2005 18:28:11  
Most likely you have a burned out tail light bulb. If not, take it to an auto electric shop unless you have the service manual. If you fool with the steering column, you get the air bag going off in your face. That will ruin your whole day.



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Kirk Grau

02-04-2005 18:45:40




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Bubba, 02-04-2005 18:41:58  
Also checked the hazard lights. All lamps are good and work off the hazard flasher. I don't have an air bag in this '94. I don't mind taking it in if it is a huge undertaking, but it seems like something I should be able to do myself.

Thanks,

Kirk



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Bubba

02-05-2005 04:17:03




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 Re: OT - GMC Experts, Suburban Steering Column in reply to Kirk Grau, 02-04-2005 18:45:40  
Yes, you did say '94. I still recommend an auto electric shop. They have the wiring diagrams from the service manual and the special tools and techniques it takes to get the column apart without breaking anything.

I still doubt it's the column stalk anyway.



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