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old

01-24-2005 14:11:44




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Well I've been playing with an engine that I have always had a problem getting a starter for. Well I got one put on it today but it does some strange stuff now. Has good compression but it shots stuff out the carb. So heres the question what would happen if the starter I put on turns the engine the wrong way would the carb act like the exhaust and the exhaust like the intake and if so is that why the carb spits now???
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Ken S.

01-24-2005 19:34:46




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to old, 01-24-2005 14:11:44  
LMAO Liked Allen in NE response



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old

01-24-2005 14:44:43




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to old, 01-24-2005 14:11:44  
Well guys I pulled a dumb one It does turn back wards I forgot I could put it in gear and hit the starter and if it went back wards in first it spins it backward.



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Jon H

01-24-2005 14:30:51




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to old, 01-24-2005 14:11:44  
Yep,been there,done that. I repowered an Oliver tractor with a Ford truck gasoline 6 cyl engine.There was no factory starter that would fit this odd engine,bellhousing combo,so I dug through the salvage yard untill I found what I thought would work. Well,the magic day came where we were ready to test run the engine. Cranked her over,she turned like mad,but would not fire and sprayed a neat little fountain of fuel/air out of the carb. looked at the fan and yep,she was turning backwards :-(. Back to the salvage yard for an armature and drive that was wound in the other direction. Fired right up the second time :) Some starters lay along side the engine block,others stick into the bellhousing from the rear. If you grab one for the wrong application,it will spin the engine in reverse.

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Allan in NE

01-24-2005 14:43:26




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to Jon H, 01-24-2005 14:30:51  
See there Jon,

This is why you make the big bucks.

If it were I, I would have filled that exhaust pipe clear full of gasoline, put a rain cap over the carb and tried my darndest to back myself right outta that mess. :>)

Allan



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Jon H

01-24-2005 16:59:07




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to Allan in NE, 01-24-2005 14:43:26  
Allen,that reminds me of a flathead Ford V8 that a guy built for his T roadster hotrod. He had a special cam ground so the air flowed from the exhaust side to the intake side. The thing had a 2 carb intake manifold on each side where the exhaust manifolds should be,and a nest of header pipes at top center of the engine,fed from the intake ports. It was a show car,and it did run. :)



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Mugway

01-24-2005 15:32:48




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to Allan in NE, 01-24-2005 14:43:26  
That had to be the best laugh I had all day!;)



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Allan in NE

01-24-2005 15:49:42




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to Mugway , 01-24-2005 15:32:48  
)Grin(



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Dave_Id

01-24-2005 14:14:05




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to old, 01-24-2005 14:11:44  
You should be able to view the fan, and determine whether the starter is turning the engine over the correct way



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ebbsspeed

01-24-2005 18:21:19




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to Dave_Id, 01-24-2005 14:14:05  
Don"t count on the fan as the indicator of whether or not the engine is turning the right way. Some blow air through the radiator instead of sucking. And if you put the fan blade on backwards it will move the air in the other direction as well.



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Lil-Farmer

01-24-2005 18:38:34




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to ebbsspeed, 01-24-2005 18:21:19  
Not so; putting the blade on backwards will just cause the air to move the same direction only less efficiently. Must revberse rotation to move air the the other direction.



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bcPA

01-25-2005 11:50:30




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to Lil-Farmer, 01-24-2005 18:38:34  
on cat dozers they remove fan and flip over to reverse air flow. In summer the air is sent forward thru radiator. In winterthe air is drawn thru radiator and over engine and helps keep operator warm. For this reason I dispute your statement.



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Tramway Guy

01-25-2005 17:33:58




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 Re: What would happen if in reply to bcPA, 01-25-2005 11:50:30  
No, Lil-Farmer is correct...if you think about it, a fan is similar to a bolt/nut. A nut will go on a bolt in either direction.

The Caterpillar equipment with reversible fans have blades that can be adjusted.

By the way, I saw one of "Click and Clack"s" columns several years ago, and they also [erroneously] referred to reversing the fan in a response to a reader"s question.



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