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Way Up Here

12-07-2004 12:30:32

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Here's a story from "Uncle John's Ahh-Inspiring Bathroom Reader" that I'm sure a lot of tractor guys will enjoy reading:

After spilling raw fish oil on his metal deck, a Scottish fishing boat captain named Robert Fergusson noticed that over time, the deck stopped rusting. So after he landed in New Orleans, Fergusson spent many years trying to formulate a fish-oil based paint that would inhibit rust and corrosion. His biggest problem wasn't getting it to work, but getting it to work without smelling fishy. Finally in 1921, after working with more fish oil than any person should ever have to, Fergusson unveiled a new paint that stopped rust, dried overnight, and left no lingering aroma. The product was RUSTOLEUM paint which many of us have used on our old iron projects.

Just thought you might like to read that little story, sort of interesting.

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BobR

12-07-2004 18:58:26

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Way Up Here, 12-07-2004 12:30:32

Neat story!

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txblu

12-07-2004 16:06:55

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Way Up Here, 12-07-2004 12:30:32

Too many SSSSS's in Fergie. Mustive been a cousin to the Ford separatist.

Mark

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txblu

12-07-2004 16:06:46

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Way Up Here, 12-07-2004 12:30:32

Too many SSSSS's in Fergie. Mustive been a cousin to the Ford separatist.

Mark

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Sloroll

12-07-2004 12:40:37

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Way Up Here, 12-07-2004 12:30:32

Got that book! The stories are just the right length and my wife marvels at my ability to have a comment on virtually any subject! (I'm blaming the book on that)

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Ol Chief

12-08-2004 21:06:31

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Sloroll, 12-07-2004 12:40:37

Hi Sloroll;Answer to your question could be a lengthy one,but I'll give a brief outline because it may bore some folks.I started to sea in the U S Merchant Marine in 1944.In those days there were 5,000 merchant ships.All civilian manned but with Navy gun crews.Most ships had steam reciprocating engines which were oiled by hand.These engines had open crankpits and every thirty minutes a man made a round of the entire moving parts of the engine.I was an oiler.We were required to stand up close to the crank and connecting rod and on each rotation throw a hand out to feel the conn.rod and journal as it passed by. (There was no OSHA ) This was to feel the temperature and examine the appearanc of the oil picked up.This done to determine how many shots of oil required on that round.Most engines were 3 or 4 cyl.and stood two or three stories high with steel catwalks to access crossheads wrist pins and valve gear.They operated in the range of 70 to 80 RPM.The low pressure pistons were usually at least 5 feet in diameter and more so repairs were heavy work. I studied constantly and worked up to obtain an engineers licence.In 1950,day after the Korean war started I volunteered to go on active duty in the Navy.I was assigned to an ammunition ship as assistant engineering officer.After release to inactive reserve duty.I returned to the Merchant Marine. Over the years I worked up thru the ranks to Chief Engineer and worked in that position for forty years until retirement in 2002.I sailed in all of the world oceans except Artic and Antartic.The highest H.P. ships I sailed were 120,000 hp.They were fitted with two 60,000 units and the main propulsion shafts were 48 inchs in diameter. Have sailed on many type vessels .Tankers, freighters and about 18 years on passenger.I was C/E for seven years on the last American flag passenger ships S/S Independence and S/S Constitution. During a lot of my career I stayed home in summer and farmed then sailed the rest of the year.Now I have a peach orchard in Fredericksburg,Tx. and a 300 acre place at Katy ,Tx.with cattle and hay. Am 77 years old and going strong.Regards,Thanks your interest.John Cooney

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thurlow

12-09-2004 08:31:54

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Ol Chief, 12-08-2004 21:06:31

Hey Chief, don't see how anyone could be bored by your (very) short story; guess when you're doing it..... slow boat to China..... ..or wherever, it might be boring to you at the time, but it seems very "exotic" to a landlubber like me. Thanks for sharing.

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Tim in NB

12-09-2004 05:19:03

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Ol Chief, 12-08-2004 21:06:31

Wow!!!

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Sloroll

12-08-2004 21:49:45

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Ol Chief, 12-08-2004 21:06:31

My Goodness. I would love to sit for a day and listen to your stories! Thank you for taking the time to tell this part of it! Bil Owen Grinnell IA

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Bill WI

12-09-2004 08:37:06

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Sloroll, 12-08-2004 21:49:45

Guess I'll never think a JD G has big pistons again.lol Large machines facinate me, but that has to be tops. Thanks for sharing. Bill

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Ol Chief

12-07-2004 18:01:05

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Sloroll, 12-07-2004 12:40:37

I would like to add just a little seagoing lore to this even though I never read the book or story.I spent most of my adult life at sea.So have had some personal experience with Rustoleum and also with fish oil.In the 1940 s,50 s and possibly later Rustoleum was still apparently use ing more of the original formula which ( I believe contained more fish oil than the present type paint uses).I am saying this because the older paint would soak into rust and then a lot of paint and rust would fall off.Thus requiring another and the several more coats until all of the rust was removed.At that point the Rustoleum would stay put.That type paint was used to remove rust and at the same time provide a color as well as preservative.The properties of pure fish oils are such that they leach into rust and cause it to fall away down to the oils deepest saturation point.I have seen rock hard scale an inch and more in thickness scraped up with a shovel after a 5 to 7 day soaking with straight fish oil.This might be called OLD Technology.This practice however is used less and less on ships today because of more use of sandblasting and use of exotic coating which will last possibly five and maybe up to ten years in salt water exposure.As a result,true fish oil has become increasingly more difficult to obtain.Though I spent lots of time at sea ,I mostly sailed in winter months and to a great extent farmed in summer because the climate in my native state made it possible.Sorry to be so windy.Ol Chief

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12-09-2004 06:38:01

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Ol Chief, 12-07-2004 18:01:05

just a passing thought. Wonder what fish oil would do to a locked up, rusted engine??? Would it help or would it make the situation worse???

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Ol Chief

12-09-2004 19:27:53

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to JT, 12-09-2004 06:38:01

Answer to JT;Hey, I am sorry to have overlooked addressing your very sensible question regarding freeing stuck engines.I think that fish oil would very likely do a terrific job as long as the engine is absolutely dry to start with.At this moment I am not assured of a source of this oil.We used to use so much of the stuff that it was a shelf item in every ship supply world wide.Last time I ordered a drum of it I received and rejected three drums before the supplier finally found the genuine article.I have a friend in Houston ( 250 miles from me ) who may have a quantity from which I may obtain a few pints.I will keep you in mind if able to to get a small amount and you would want to give it a try.If I am in luck I'll post a note to JT on this site.

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Sloroll

12-08-2004 05:26:47

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What body of water? in reply to Ol Chief, 12-07-2004 18:01:05

So what did you do at sea? I speant many summers on Bristol Bay gill netting. Far cry from the Iowa plains but someof the most interesting times and people of my life there.

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Brian in NY

12-08-2004 05:15:04

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Ol Chief, 12-07-2004 18:01:05

So my doctor's recommendation that I take a Fish Oil pill every couple of days will keep the rust from accumulating in my joints? Maybe there will be enough residual chemistry in my blood sweat and tears that it will help my old Farmalls when I am working on them.

What a wonderful thing!

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Ol Chief

12-09-2004 18:20:48

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Brian in NY, 12-08-2004 05:15:04

Gosh fellows, I sat here thinking that my reply to Sloroll query was way to long.I have a habit of going into details but left out a lot in that last post.I had a tremendously interesting life on ships and in truth I will continue to miss that industry.Even today if I want a vacation I go on a cruise.Today our American flag fleet has shrunken to only about 300 vessels.This is due in great part to federal govt.interference and again favoring foreign countries.There are only two major shipbuilding yards left in the USA and they would not even exist except for Navy contracts.Our government has ruined many industries just as the have turned farming into a hollow shell.On the lighter side,I have 15 tractors,seven are operable but the rest are still in poor condition. I am in process of building a 30 X 50 shop and itching to get it going.I have plenty of stories to tell but am only a hunt and punch typest. I thank you one and all for your replys and interest.Best personal regards,John

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Sloroll

12-09-2004 18:29:07

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Re: A story to read ..... in reply to Ol Chief, 12-09-2004 18:20:48

Any time you want to talk (hunt and peck) a yarn please don't forget about us! Thank you for sharing! Bill

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