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Best Loader Ever

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Allan in NE

11-25-2004 06:47:39




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Hi All,

This is a nice picture of a Farmhand F-10, which to my mind, is the absolute best loader ever conceived by mankind. This one is wrapped around an IH 656.

Note the mouning bracket/truss assembly under the belly of the tractor constructed from 3/8 x 4" angle iron to insure that the tractor did not break in half.

Allan

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Monteinodak

11-27-2004 16:46:47




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
We had the "crow's nest" farmhand. All the irons overhead. No pushoff, but would lift to 21'. We stacked loose hay with it, on a JD "A". Your hands were busy with the clutch, Farmnand controls, etc.



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paul

11-26-2004 08:59:38




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
I won't really disagree with your comment, but:

How would I get that thing in my 8x8 foot barn doors to scoop manure? Another of those deals, worthless thing 'here', indespensable tool 'there'. :)

I've seen about 2 of those contraptions up around here in my life, don't think they ever caught on. Way, way too hilly to lift as high as you are talking about, and we need much more manuverability/ fit-through-the-door type loaders around here. You could about sell a good one for scrap price locally.

Again, I'm commenting only to compare how the different regions need/ use different things. I enjoy seeing how things are done in different places, and what is valued and what is 'junk', and how that can be the same item! :)

--->Paul

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Allan in NE

11-26-2004 09:09:28




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to paul, 11-26-2004 08:59:38  
Hi Paul,

What's manure doing in your barns anyway? Those critters are 'sposed ta be out on the open range, don't ya know. :>)

Yep, I know what ya mean, one man's junk and another's gold, or so the saying goes.

Allan



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paul

11-26-2004 13:30:18




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-26-2004 09:09:28  
Ah - I wonder how many buckets of manure I took out the 8x8 doors with the H tractor & loader over the years - narrow front, no power steering or live hyd, tractor is about 7 ft wide, my head is about 8.3 feet high when going over the sill.....

Shifting knee & back of head & back (after finally remembering to remain stooped at all times....) sure hurts when the day or 3 is over..... ;)

--->Paul

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Hugh MacKay

11-26-2004 02:15:47




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Allan: I looked at photo, decided to read what everyone else said. Kind of thought they may be shipping you off to the funny farm, after that statment. Do you mean an ark like that will only haul 15 bales. You could go to the field with pickup, and get the 15 bales quicker.



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Allan in NE

11-26-2004 05:47:40




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-26-2004 02:15:47  
Hugh,

What he means about the 15 bales is that he could "sweep" up 15 bales without stopping and heading to the stack. With a 656 like that, the sweeping can be done in road gear, low T/A.

The trick was to sweep up 11 bales end-wise and then grab 4 across front of those by sweeping them 'side-ways' giving a full sweep load of 15 bales before you had to run back to the stack.

Other than a stack wagon, it is the easiest & fastest way there is to handle small square bales.

RJ talks about breaking sweep teeth on the earlier sweep heads. We didn’t keep that style of head too long, maybe a couple of years.

When Farmhand came out with that big steel toothed outfit, we were on it like fleas on a dog. Plus, it had that nice big aluminum push-off rack, which would let you reach to something like 27'.

I never stacked baled hay or straw that high, but we repeatedly stacked loose hay just as high as the old gal would push 'er up there.

When the loader was extended all the way up, the back of the bucket or hay head was directly up over your head. I wish I could find a picture of one of these things fully extended; it is quite a sight and makes these little F-11s look like mere toys.

Allan

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Davis In SC

11-25-2004 21:10:20




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Looks almost impossible to flip..... . Corners will catch it if it tilts to one side or corner



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Eldon (WA)

11-25-2004 19:33:21




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Believe it or not my uncle used one of these (round tube) for years on an 8N Ford stacking square bales. The front end was beefed up a little....we had one on a JD720D WF that worked real good.



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Bill in Colo

11-25-2004 18:29:21




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Still have one on a 1948 "M" F 10D haybuck and grapple heads, also had 8pack for years but sold a few years ago havnt put up loose hay in 20 years . Most ranches here still have one for a spare. The last ranch to put up loose hay in our valley sold this fall and the equipment was sold Nov. 11th they sold and M wide front power steering and F10D with grapple head for $2200 and a powershift 4020 F10d both heads $9200


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Mike M

11-25-2004 12:40:48




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Best loader for what ????? I'd say best loader with built in roll cage and that would be about it.



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RJ-AZ

11-25-2004 09:22:21




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Hey there neat picture Allen. Dad had the older model with the round pipe arms. He upgraded all the pulleys and cable to 5/8" cable and put a two spool Gresen valve on instead of the old rotary/push-pull type. Last tractor we had under it was a SMTA Diesel and in good hay we could buck in 2000 bales a day. Thats building a stack right in the fields. We carried fresh packings for the main lift rams and could repack a ram in the field in no time at all. When you got good you could scoop up a bale and flip it up on top of the others and sometimes bring in up to 16 bales at a time, average was 12 to 14. We did a lot of custom stacking after we got our hay up. That sure brings back some old memories.

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old

11-25-2004 09:12:16




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Shot if I had a loader like that on one of my tractors I'd spend more time being stuck then ever getting any work done. Too many trees and the creek gravel is to soft for such a big heavy loader. I'll just stick with the old Cat 950 we have on the farm.



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Dug

11-25-2004 08:41:01




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Hey Allan,

Looks like a tank headin' off to war. Quite a bit more steel there than in my F11.

Have a great Turkey Day,

Dug



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farmerboybill

11-25-2004 08:24:11




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Holy Cow! When you say "wraps around" you MEAN it! Looks like one of those old hay stackers. What did it have for lift capacity? What do you use that monster for? I'd hate to bend one of those cylinders and hafta find a new one...



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Coloken

11-25-2004 07:28:17




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 06:47:39  
Allan, what was the number of the earlier Farmhand loader? the one that had the bridgwork over and across the top. I was all ways told that it was the best and strongest. Any one with a picture?



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Allan in NE

11-25-2004 07:47:47




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Coloken, 11-25-2004 07:28:17  
Hi Kenny,

I really can't tell you what the model number was 'cause they kinda predate me and I just never paid any attention to 'em. :>)

Those were the ones that had the tilt cylinder/cable winch standing up and down behind the operator instead of inside the arm and they also had that old "wedge" shaped oil tank? I know that they were all the rage right after the war.

There is one just over the hill from me mounted on an old JD. Maybe I can get over there sometime today and snap a picture of it.

This things are built right down there in your back yard at Fort Collins, aren't they?

Allan

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Indydirtfarmer

11-25-2004 07:53:10




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 07:47:47  
Pre-date you? They mounted loaders on horses?

After the war? Would that be the Revolutionary war, or the Civil War?

Happy Thanksgiving oldtimer! John



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Allan in NE

11-25-2004 07:57:08




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 11-25-2004 07:53:10  
ROFLMAO!!!!

Same to you ol' Pard. :>)



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steveormary

11-25-2004 10:52:25




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 Re: Best Loader Ever in reply to Allan in NE, 11-25-2004 07:57:08  
Allan

They sure are good loaders.We only wore out 3 of them. We had a hay buck for stacking loose hay. A grapple fork head for unstacking the hay and loading manure. The first one was mounted on a TE-20 Ferguson and later switched it over to the TO-30. The 2nd one was bought as a unit and was mounted on a Cockshutt 30. Wore out both the loader and tractor. 3rd.one was also purchased as a unit and was mounted on an M Farmall. We stacked alot of hay with those loaders. They did tie up a tractor tho.

steveormary

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