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Engine stalls---no clue?

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Jubilation

10-27-2004 16:06:58




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I can't figure out why my Jubilee stalls 30 seconds or so after starting up, then won't restart. I previously had a bad gas tank (rust), so I put a liner kit in it. The gas appears clean. I just changed the plugs, no difference. Is there a carb adjustment or something else simple that is causing this?




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RAB

10-27-2004 23:18:43




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
FIRST check to see whether there is a continuous fuel flow after it stops (full flow for a minute or so?) AND/OR check for spark at the plugs. It WILL almost certainly be one OR the other. Until you are confident which system is causing the problem, you are flying in the dark.
Regards, RAB



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Punchie

10-27-2004 19:33:06




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
fuel line , carb float , stediment bowl.

First if you have a valve on the bottom of the carburator. turn on gas and open it make sure you get a good running (flow) of gas. no dripping. If you don't get a good flow try to figure out why. Some have an inline screen.
Make sure gas cap is not stopping the flow, should havea small hole to let air in, better just to take it off while you see if you get good flow. If you put it back on and it starts again you know it is it.

Maybe some of the other things but I would start with the fuel system.

Teddy

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old

10-27-2004 19:16:56




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
The reason I don't think its carb problems is that most engines will run for a few minutes after you have shut off the gas to the carb, so its more likely to be in the ignition system. When I shut down my JD-B you have to shut off the fuel and it takes a good 3 or 4 minutes for it to stop running. Where as in an electic problem it heats up in seconds and then goeses bye bye



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leland

10-27-2004 19:05:37




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
I am no genius but check carb and fuel line and check outlet on tank something is causing a blockage it appears.



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Scott Green

10-27-2004 18:11:17




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
Here's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like the float is sticking up. My Oliver has been doing that for about 6 months. I haven't had the time to take care of the problem yet. I would start the engine. After about 30 seconds , it will stall. It will not start until I tap on the side of the carb. I can run it all day long. Shut it off , start it back up numerous times. No Problems. Once it sets over night , we start all over again. So , what I do is , start the engine up. Get off the tractor and tap on the side of the carb before it stalls. Then it's fine for the day. Like others say , it can be many other things. But it sure sounds to me like the float is sticking up , not letting gas into the bowl. Let us know how you make out.

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jubilation

11-01-2004 08:16:18




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Scott Green, 10-27-2004 18:11:17  
Thanks for all the advice. I located the probem and I am embarassed to say that the tank was simply low on fuel. I didn't realize that there was a tube above the sediment bowl that extends up into the tank a couple inches, so the tank had gas when I looked into it, but not enough to get above the tube. Thanks for all the input, I'm sure I will use it someday. I have added your input to a trouble shooting list. Thanks.

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Scott Green

10-27-2004 18:13:59




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Scott Green, 10-27-2004 18:11:17  
I ment to say the needle is sticking in the seat. I don't think the actual float is sticking up.



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Rod F.

10-27-2004 17:55:23




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
As old has said, that could be a number of things. It could be electrical, but I wonder if it isn't fuel. Perhaps a severe blokage in the line or filter, that slowly allows fuel into the float bowl on the carb. When you start it up, it runs for 30 sec. and drains the bowl....quits. Leave sit for a while, fuel trickles back in, and then you try again? Try starting, and when it just starts to die, give it a small shot of ether. If it recovers, you likely have a fuel problem, if it still quits, then it's electrical. I'm not certain on the Jub, but there should be an inline filter either in the bottom of the tank or the carb inlet. Just a trash screen. This is just a thought, as you said you had tank problems. HTH.

Rod

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old

10-27-2004 16:56:56




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
That could be a number of things. I'd start by hot wireing it, that gets the switch, the wires and if its 12 the resistor out of the picture. If it runs that way you have a problem with one of them. If it doesn't its probably the coil or condenser.



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Jeff In Ontario

10-27-2004 16:29:02




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jubilation, 10-27-2004 16:06:58  
I've had a similar problem before and once I changed the coil, the problems went away.

Jeff



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

10-28-2004 04:10:13




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 Re: Engine stalls---no clue? in reply to Jeff In Ontario, 10-27-2004 16:29:02  
Same problem with my ferg. Tap the carb. a bit and no problem the rest of the day.



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