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joe e-tx

10-23-2004 18:31:20




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sorry but how do you (old people) learn to figger acreage by looking at some land and know whats open or in timber, or fenced ????
joe




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FarmerDave

10-25-2004 06:41:37




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
I use those computer programs the NRCS and the FSA have to guestimate acreage. When I go to spread fertilizer though, I always seem to have more fertilizer than land. ???



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E. Ray

10-24-2004 05:27:58




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
I would guess that would depend on the number of acres you are trying to estimate. I grew-up in central Ky. and now sell Real Estate. My dad raised tob. and when I was young, the quote was acres not pounds. I can guesstimate 20,30,40 acres fairly accurately. An acre is approx. 200' X 200' (208.71 X 208.71. Five acres is appro. 250' X 900 (250' X 871.2). If you can guesstimate distance, use this to lay off blocks, count the blocks. Someone who deal in more acreage than that will have a different system. Like kyhayman said, after you mow, rake, plow, drag, walk (chopping out tob.) a known acreage, it become second nature.

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Punchie

10-24-2004 04:57:37




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 Guessing distance and sizes in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
HI Joe

Well that has to be a rough one some caan do it and some can't.

Take any given field look at it , guessing yds feet, rods, meters. Start walking to that spot. Were you close? , if not do it again. Now for the rough one, side veiw do this again. If you get close after a few tries than you are going to be in a ballpark guess.

If you have trouble guessing distance, chances are your not going to be able to do this. But time will tell, try it often and learn. A few pointers. How big is the grass at 100 yds. That trees branches, at the ends where the leaves are what do they look like at 100 yds. bird flying is what got me started hunting , like the goose hunter say look for they feet. Look for something that would tell you the distance, now what works for you saying you have 20/20 vesion, would not work for me I have 20/15 if I have the numbers right. I see in 20 ft. what the normal 20/20 persons see at 15ft.

Have Fun do it with a friend make a game of it after a few times your'e going to do ok. I figure if doing it for custom work i always add 10-20 % . Beter to do it for lower than they where looking to pay than end up charging more or losing money.

Punchie

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Dean Minnesota

10-24-2004 09:40:05




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 Re: Guessing distance and sizes in reply to Punchie, 10-24-2004 04:57:37  
There is no substitute for measuring. Optical illusions and eyeseight changes with age all contribute to large errors by guessing.



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punchie

10-25-2004 04:13:00




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 Re: Guessing distance and sizes in reply to Dean Minnesota, 10-24-2004 09:40:05  
Yep been there done that more than once. I havea 3 ft. step if I'm pacing off a field. But I'm fair at guessing acres.



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Sloroll

10-24-2004 03:36:34




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
I go straight until my Rascle runs out of juice. Than I back track with my walker until I run out of juice.... That is about a MIle.



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wolfy

10-23-2004 20:46:55




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
Like so many things in life - you learn to do it by doing it.



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Leland

10-23-2004 20:28:19




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
I've learned it the easy way from working small fields a field that is 1 city block wide by 4 blocks long is about 13 acres so when I look at other fields I just start counting off blocks,



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RAB

10-24-2004 02:08:30




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to Leland, 10-23-2004 20:28:19  
OK, so we can tell where you came from!
One hectare is 100m*100m. Easy.
An acre is 70 yards*70 yards. Not so easy. That damn metric system based on tens is soooo much easier!
IF you were born and bred on a farm, you just grew up knowing how big which fields were. Easy as that - a lifetime of experience.
Regards, RAB
P.S. don"t be coming back telling me an acre is not 4900 square yards. I"ve yet to meet someone who could tell the difference at a glance.

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Leland

10-24-2004 08:08:48




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to RAB, 10-24-2004 02:08:30  
No it's not that the 1st farmer I worked for had a lot of small patches on the edge of town that how I tought my self to size a field so far it's works most of the time. Like when I multiply numbers I do it backwards and this amazes my wife and she wishes I could teach some of her students to do this. I just do things different.



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kyhayman

10-23-2004 20:23:28




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-23-2004 18:31:20  
I'm not sure if I qualify as old (OMG, I sure hope not). I've seen 35 come and go but havent yet made the 40 milestone. Generally speaking though, I can estimate acres with a fair degree of accuracy (unless its really oddball shaped with lots of swales within a 1/2 acre or so. Its not age, its experience and practice. For me, theres over 30 years of looking at the land. When most kids got a dog for a pet, I got a heifer calf, when most teenagers were playing sports I was negotiating equipment to lease and hay to cut, and everyother evening when my friends were hanging out with there girlfriend I was in line with a tanke rtruck at the distillery to haul thin stillage to cows.

As far as the practice, you learn pretty quickly with a know field size as to the time it takes you to do whatever (mow, rake, etc). Then you look at similar fields and associate with the previous one. After a while it becomes second nature. Just like guessing weights or ages on cattle. Now dont get me wrong, I still under bid a batwing job b/c I misjudge the acres, still under or over estimate time or yield due to missing the acres, and still wind up buying a pen of steers with a couple of blue eyes or getting a broken mouth cow. Practice helps you do it, and expensive lessons teach you to focus (nothing like working all week and losing $500, or buying a load of steers and missing a snotty nose so in about 4 days they are all sick). Just have to get in there and do it, always begin with the end in mind, use those tractor hours to study the sky and study the land (and the best advice my dad ever gave me, never, ever waste you time of solitude listening to the radio)

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joe e-tx

10-24-2004 04:58:07




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to kyhayman, 10-23-2004 20:23:28  
thank you all. neighbor wants bid on 1200 acres to be mowed .quess i will try to see how many 25 acres i can see in open in it
again thank you joe



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Leland

10-24-2004 08:15:58




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to joe e-tx, 10-24-2004 04:58:07  
Is this 1 field or a bunch of smaller ones ,a 1200 acre field would be a mile wide and almost 2 miles long that would take several mowers to knock that out in a hurry.



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Van in AR

10-24-2004 04:51:55




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to kyhayman, 10-23-2004 20:23:28  
Your dad is a smart man about that radio, back in the 70's when I was growing up (dang I am old
!) I was always bugging my dad to get me one of the IH fender tractor radios, he would always say "son, when your working that tractor your job is to listen to that machinery working, not some silly rock and roll tunes. Listen for problems and be aware of whats going on and learn. I did have a radio in the hay truck though.
Van

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Leland

10-24-2004 16:52:56




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 Re: sorry but how in reply to Van in AR, 10-24-2004 04:51:55  
Trouble with a fender radio when a 7or 806 wide open and working hard you could not understand the radio anyway.



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