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Proper way to hand crank (handle)

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WeirdDeere

10-09-2004 21:42:15




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My grandpa recently bought a very nice McCormick Deering W-30. I have hand cranked our Case VAC a few times (along with plenty of flywheel tractors), and I know the basics.

Make sure it's in neutral, timing retarded, choke and throttle positions, etc, put crank at bottom, and pull up 1/4 to 1/2 turn. The tractor does start pretty good, and hopefully even better as I learn what it likes.

But what is the best (safest) way to hold the crank, and does it really matter which hand you use?

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Brandon
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Farmered

10-11-2004 03:48:58




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 Re: Proper way to hand crank (handle) in reply to WeirdDeere, 10-09-2004 21:42:15  
Yes, it does matter which hand you use. Note which hand you write checks with, use the other one on the crank.



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RAB

10-10-2004 08:44:18




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 Re: Proper way to hand crank (handle) in reply to WeirdDeere, 10-09-2004 21:42:15  
Depends to a certain degree on how the crank jaws are configured, some you can just lift over compression, some you need to pull over from the other side. But like everyone else has said, you must be able to let go safely and keep out of the way of a rotating handle if it kicks back - and that at least means thumb on same side as fingers.
Regards, RAB



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Colken

10-10-2004 07:44:28




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 Re: Proper way to hand crank (handle) in reply to WeirdDeere, 10-09-2004 21:42:15  
Agree with every thing said here. Most important is to not have the thumb around the crank. I used the crank down and pull up method. It might possibly let you have a little more pull, get your back into it, than the other way. The top down might, might, be a little safer, like proping an airplane and falling away. Last I cranked was an Allis A with E60 power unit sleeves, 5 1/4 bore, 6 1/2 stroke. then I got a Case LA with starter.

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Sid

10-09-2004 22:12:55




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 Re: Proper way to hand crank (handle) in reply to WeirdDeere, 10-09-2004 21:42:15  
The old neighbor mechanic taught me to put crank at top and pull said that if it kicks back it will jerk the crank out of you hand and you will have the crank jerked away from you and if you lose balance you will fall away from spinning crank. He also said to grab the crank with left hand and not to wrap your thumb around the crank. He said if you put crank at bottom and pull up that there is more of a chance that in case of a kick back the spinning crank will have a tendencey to pull you off balance into the spinning crank. I am not sure wich of these is the best method but because I was taught to put the crank on top and pull with left hand that is the way I do it. I am sure of two things though. DO NOT grab crank with thumb around handle and DO NOT jump up and put body weight on crak and push down. As I said this is the way I was taught. I have had a tractor kick back and jerk it out of my left hand and was not hurt. I know of a guy who was pulling from top with left hand had thumb wrapped around the crank and the tractor kicked back and he said it thumb hurt so bad and was sore for so long that at times he he felt it could not have hurt much more if it had torn his thumb off. I jumped on the crank pushing down and the tractor kicked back man was I lucky.

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CLW

10-09-2004 21:52:59




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 Re: Proper way to hand crank (handle) in reply to WeirdDeere, 10-09-2004 21:42:15  
My Dad many years ago broke his thumb becouse he had his hand around the crank like you would hold a pipe. I understand the thumb goes over the crank the same way as your fingers go. Would only be guessing if I replied to the right or left hand part.
CLW



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steveormary

10-10-2004 08:11:12




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 Re: Proper way to hand crank (handle) in reply to CLW, 10-09-2004 21:52:59  
I think you should pull up on the crank. Mabe you can watch some of the people on the RFDTV programs and see how thet do it.

steveormary



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