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Silly Old Man

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Allan in NE

09-29-2004 14:07:58




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Hi All,

Thought I'd relate this true-life story, which triggered my memory this morning by a post over on the implement board.

I was a young man of about 22-23 or so; I was all-full of myself, cocksure and thought that I just plain knew it all. (Some say I’m still that way….. naw, that just ‘taint true!).

Anyway, I just could not stand the way my dad always left those five big shiny tractors setting out in the weather all the time. It just did not make any sense, what with that big empty shop standing there almost completely empty and all. What in the world was he thinkin’ of, for chriminy sakes? It just didn’t take that much extra effort to pull those tractors inside.

I took it upon myself to park them all into the big shop; got ‘em all in there with room to spare. I was sooooo darned proud of myself! This is just simply a better plan and makes more sense; less wear and tear on the things from the weather, don’t ya know. Better resale value down the road; sure, I’m right. Yep, I’m just a little smarter in this respect, no doubt about it.

Well, this lasted just about 3 hours ‘til Pap came home & found out about my rearrangement efforts with the tractors. He absolutely hit the roof and came totally unstuck! Chewed me up one side and down the other. Called me a hair-brained, knot-head, useless kid and every other demeaning thing he could think of during his rage. This man was red-faced, screamin’ mad!!

His main concern was fire and that if something should happen whereby a freak fire should break out, we’d loose every darned tractor on the place! In addition, those fuel barrels were setting just a few feet outside the shop wall.

I tried to explain to him that the shop was built from cement block, had a cement floor and that the tractors were made of iron. What’s to burn anyway? This stuff is totally inert. How could a fire possibly ever break out in this building all on it’s own? This doesn’t make any sense; this is a complete no-brainer! His argument just didn’t hold any water viewed from my young perspective…Silly Old Man anyway!!!!

No dice! Get those tractors outta here, do it now and I mean right now! Well, okay; sheepishly, I pull the goofy things outside again and park ‘em back out where they were originally setting.

Fast-forward five years. Dad had since left to farm the big place up in the sky and had, somewhat reluctantly I would imagine, left me in charge of this one. You guessed it: All the tractors and every piece of equipment I could squeeze into that shop are all inside as they should be, darn it! Every night, everybody inside! No weather erosion is gonna happen on this equipment!

It’s a very cold January morning and as usual, I head out to do chores and get the beasts out to feed the cattle. I open the shop door and the place is totally chock-filled with smoke!! I could hardly see my hand in front of my face, but I could just barely make out that orange flame that was just starting above the battery and under that diesel fuel tank on the 656!

I had put a charger on the battery the night before and somehow it must have sparked or something and caught all that diesel-soaked dirt, packed under the cowl, on fire. This thing was taking off, big time and turning into a roaring fire. I mean roaring! That diesel fuel burns really good!

Long story short, I threw open all the doors and scrambled like a madman to get the tractors outta there while at the same time trying to get the darned fire put out on that 656.

After the fire was out, it dawned on me that if I had decided to have just one more cup of coffee that morning while in the warm house, we would have lost the whole darned bunch and quite possibly all the outbuildings as well because of those stinkin’ fuel barrels and their proximity to the shop. (No, because of my youthful stupidity).

Thanks Dad, lesson learned. I’m a little smarter now.

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Aaron

09-30-2004 13:22:42




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Allan in NE, 09-29-2004 14:07:58  
Allen in NE,
I assume you are speaking of me since I am the 25 year old who posted on the Implement site about keeping his equipment inside out of the weather. First off, I resent the comment about being a "cock sure know-it-all" person, at least that's what is implied, in my opinion. It was just my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for?
Second, would you have all that equipment, buildings to put it in, and then not insure it? I would hope not! That would really not be a good idea. If in the event that an unfortunate incident happens, I'm covered! But I'm sure not going to let my equipment that I've paid good money for deteriorate based on "what ifs". (I don't know if this is the case for everyone or not, but mine truly IS paid for. I don't lease or trade-in every few years to always keep it looking good.) If it happens, I'll collect and buy again. That's what I pay premiums for.

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Allan in NE

09-30-2004 13:42:28




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Aaron, 09-30-2004 13:22:42  
Hold on there Sonny,

I was not talking about you in any way, shape, manner or form. I was speaking totally about myself.

I used to be hotheaded when I was young too, but I grew out of it.

Go ahead and pile your equipment up all you like; it certainly makes me no difference.

But, if you honestly think that you will recover any sizable fraction of your replacement costs from your insurance company, I would suggest that you are dreamin'. That ain't the way the real world works.

Allan

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Aaron

09-30-2004 18:52:49




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Allan in NE, 09-30-2004 13:42:28  
I don't refer to you as "old timer", please don't refer to me as "sonny". My name is posted. I don't hide behind a fake name.
If you are impling I don't know how the real world works, I beg to differ. I have my 4 year college degree, work a full time job, support my family, and just happen to like to keep things looking nice. Let's leave it at that. I assumed you were relating to me since I was the one who made the response that I keep my equipment inside every night. Others, and I assume you are one, feel that it is not neccessary. That's your opinion, and your entitled to it. I've read your posts on many subjects for a long time, and respect and agree with most things you say. This is one time we don't agree, but that's ok.
Have a good day.

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Lincoln

09-29-2004 20:22:07




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Allan in NE, 09-29-2004 14:07:58  
My grandpa was the county engineer for many years. It was always his practice to have the truck drivers and equipment operators drive their trucks home at night so all the equipment was not in the county shop in case of fire. Someone complained that all the county workers were getting free transportation so the practice was halted.

Fast forward about 30 years. A fire started on a dump truck in the shop. The truck was completly destroyed. Luckily the fire was discovered and put out before the whole place went up. As it was about half a dozen pieces of equipment were damaged. On a side note the current engineer tried to get a sprinkler system put in the shop when it was built but it got voted down.

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51Pony

09-29-2004 18:03:21




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Allan in NE, 09-29-2004 14:07:58  
Doesn't sound silly to me. Fire is a bad thing, and was a bad thing on the previous generation. Dad always made us shovel the snow from in front of all entrances, even the front door that we didn't use. That was his reasoning. A fire starts, you may have to get out. My MIL thinks I'm nuts, but I still do it.



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Harley1983

09-29-2004 19:34:24




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to 51Pony, 09-29-2004 18:03:21  
Know what you mean Allan. The older I get the smarter my dad gets. He drilled into my somewhat thick head all my life on the farm to open all valves all the way and then shut them down 1/2 turn. The reasoning was he learned this on a battleship in WWII and when fully opened the pressure of whatever was flowing through the line might put pressure against the open valve and if it had to be closed in a real hurry for some reason it could be stuck tight. For some reason I remembered this one and when I went to Nam in the Brown Water Navy, it just was second nature to do this operation in this manner. One day a Chief Engineman confronted me and said this was the right way to open a valve, but where did I learn it. He wasn't impressed when I told him from a battleship from WWII. Needless to say, he needed an explanation, but the whole point is, it's funny sometimes what we remember from our mentors many years after they tell us something. Later, Harley

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Stickler

09-30-2004 07:26:11




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Harley1983, 09-29-2004 19:34:24  
We do that with all valves in power plants too. Not only the pressure involved can make them stick open, but the operating mechanism itself can bind, and when seconds count, you want to be able to close a valve to isolate something.



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Tim in NB

09-30-2004 21:33:46




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Stickler, 09-30-2004 07:26:11  
What kind of power plant do you work at?



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Stickler

10-01-2004 18:31:11




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Tim in NB, 09-30-2004 21:33:46  
Hydro. 472MW, the one I'm at right now. I've been running these things for close to 30 years. This is the smallest one. Largest was 1330. Used to do HVDC converter stations too. In the range of 2000MW each.



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Allan in NE

09-30-2004 05:44:53




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Harley1983, 09-29-2004 19:34:24  
Hey Guy,

What ship was your dad on? My dad was on the USS Amen 527 (a can).

Yep, I put in my 5 years in the Navy as well; built the guidance systems for our ever so popular Sidewinder air-to-air missle.

Allan



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harley1983

09-30-2004 10:42:24




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Allan in NE, 09-30-2004 05:44:53  
Allan, my dad was on the USS North Carolina, BB55, now tied up in Wilmington, North Carolina, for 39 months during WW11, and I was on Swift Boats from Aug. 68 to Feb. 70 in An Thoi, Phu Quoc, RVN. Didn't know it at the time, but I was there the same time as Herr Kerry. I guess if he would have stayed long enough to unpack his seabag, we might have met. Harley



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Harley1983

09-29-2004 19:36:46




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Harley1983, 09-29-2004 19:34:24  
By the way. I feel kinda hurt that you guys musta took up the collection and sent the RealRon on vacation and didn't ask me. I would have chipped in. LOL, Harley



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Dug

09-29-2004 20:17:31




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Harley1983, 09-29-2004 19:36:46  
I've been wondering about TheRealRon. Hope he comes back, I kinda miss messing with his head.

Dug



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Rod F.

09-30-2004 06:09:20




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Dug, 09-29-2004 20:17:31  
Dug,
Do you suppose that someone hurt his feelings...?

Rod



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Dug

09-30-2004 18:53:44




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 Re: Silly Old Man in reply to Rod F., 09-30-2004 06:09:20  
Naw, I don't think he has any feelings.

Dug



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