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Speaking of Short-handled hoes

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Allan in NE

09-25-2004 08:18:09




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Hi All,

I'm assuming that the sugar beet seed companies have figured out how to keep the seed from planting in clusters since one never sees the thinning crews out anymore?

If so, what is the spacing? 8 inches or thereabouts?

Thanks,

Allan




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Rick in Michigan

09-27-2004 05:12:29




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Allan in NE, 09-25-2004 08:18:09  
I saw the topic and thought someone was discussing my wife...



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Harley1983

09-27-2004 08:04:33




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Rick in Michigan, 09-27-2004 05:12:29  
There you go jumping to conclusions again. Besides, your wife shouldn't have a handle at all. You better go check again.LOL, Harley



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Indydirtfarmer

09-26-2004 03:24:27




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Allan in NE, 09-25-2004 08:18:09  
Allen, someone mentioned planter technology. I bought a 2 row planter for my garden. It's a John Deere model #71 "unit planter" They are the greatest veggy planter ever built. You can get seed plates that will hanle (accurately) beet seed, turnips, even radish's. I've got about 40 sets of plates for them. A great deal of the seed corn crop is planted with then also. (At least in the Indiana area) They are very simple, and VERY accurate, while still being very gentle with the seed. Not much need for thinning after planting with them. I'm not too sure who makes it, but I've also seen a "mechanical thinner" that will handle just about any crop. It was in a beet field in Michigan when I saw it several years ago. If you give "modern manufacturing" the chance, they'll finally make even the Mexican obsolete someday. (But at what cost?) John

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Paul in Mich

09-25-2004 09:12:11




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Allan in NE, 09-25-2004 08:18:09  
Allan, We grow a lot of Sugar beets here in mid Michigan, and while we have a few field crews from time to time, they dont do much thinning anymore. I think that more than the seed companies, it is the planter technology that has controled the population and spacing of seeds. The same thing is found in corn and other row crops. As to sugar beet spacing, I think 6 inches is more like it rather than 8 inches. I chuckle somewhat when I read about legislation outlawing short handle hoes, because short handled hoes weren"t forced upon field labor, but rather field labor cut the handles off regular long handled hoes to allow them to work more precise and faster. Bending over to use a short handled hoe is not necessarily the back breaker as some do-gooders might suggest. If it were, they are 50 years too late, as so little field labor is used today as compared to 50 yrs ago.

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Hugh MacKay

09-26-2004 04:01:47




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Paul in Mich, 09-25-2004 09:12:11  
Paul: Interesting senario, on just who cut the hoe handle off. My dad always had about a dozen or more hoes. He always said when a guy cut his hoe handle short it was a sign of poor co-ordination. I still have dad's last hoe, blade is only about 1" high anymore. I also have a hoe I bought the week I got married, 39 years ago June past. Marg claims that one. I have another same style but less the 10 years old. I can tell you the steel in this new hoe, is quite crappy. First time I ever bent the blade of a hoe, this new one. If all new hoes are as poor quality steel as this new one, laws were not needed to ban them. Cost would make them obsolete.

By the way my hoes all still have 5 foot handles.

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txblu

09-26-2004 06:36:41




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-26-2004 04:01:47  
Can still get quality tools. Just have to shop an upper cut hardware like ACE.



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Bob/Ont

09-25-2004 19:13:34




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Paul in Mich, 09-25-2004 09:12:11  
Paul, I have a short handled hoe and it's for cutting corn, don't know if you could buy one now or not.
Later Bob



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Mike M

09-25-2004 14:22:30




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Paul in Mich, 09-25-2004 09:12:11  
They were also late on that no hand weeding ban. My wife banned hand weeding long ago. LOL



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Paul in Mich

09-25-2004 14:48:46




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 Re: Speaking of Short-handled hoes in reply to Mike M, 09-25-2004 14:22:30  
Mike, Same goes for my wife, which is why I found myself on my hands and knees in the flower bed yesterday doing HER job. Where"s the justice?



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