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Case 90 series and 70 series tractors

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R Wyler

09-18-2004 18:32:12




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I have been wondering what is better in the 90 series tractors than the 70 series what are the main differences in them? The cabs look to be just as nice on the 70 series how do the hyds compare? How about the trans and rear ends? I preffer Case and was wondering if the 90 series are a better tractor overall or about the same. I want to get a newer tractor than a 930 sometime and would like to find out the story on the 70 and 90 series. Thanks guys for any advice. R Wyler

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Leland

09-20-2004 22:13:54




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-18-2004 18:32:12  
Have driven both take your pick, but remember to change hyd-trans filters every 2-250 hrs they last a lot longer . You would be suprised how much dirt is in there.



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R Wyler

09-23-2004 07:54:52




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to Leland, 09-20-2004 22:13:54  
Thanks for the tip. I need to look at what a 70 series cab looks like I looked in a 2090 already and I really like it. R Wyler



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Leland

09-23-2004 12:54:14




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-23-2004 07:54:52  
you might as well go all out around here you can pick up a 2590 for 13.000 and up



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Can't even use my name

09-19-2004 06:20:04




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-18-2004 18:32:12  
The 90 series is a much better tractor all around. Above what has already been mentioned they are easier to split in half if you should need to and the injectors on them are the screw in type rather than the pencil injectors... almost impossible to get the pencil type out without ruining them. The latest 70 series were good tractors too (well really all were but the latest were better!) it is just the 90's seem to me a better tractor.

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R Wyler

09-19-2004 06:56:55




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to Can't even use my name, 09-19-2004 06:20:04  
I guess that means the 930 would have these pencil injectors as well. I agree a 90 series is my choice of the two. R Wyler



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SHeiserman

09-19-2004 06:13:59




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-18-2004 18:32:12  
I don't remember if the 1370 had the muffler come up through hood or off to the side like the 2390 did. The 1070 came up through the hood. It's kinda nice with it off to the side. I don't think you can go wrong either way (70 or 90 series). The last Case to go was the 1070 and I miss it. But, once he gave up farming, there was no need for a real tractor anymore. Enter the 4020....



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R Wyler

09-19-2004 06:55:11




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to SHeiserman, 09-19-2004 06:13:59  
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH yes I imagine it was hard to see that Agri King go at least you still have some Case's around SHeiserman and that is a good deal. R Wyler



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big jt

09-19-2004 00:28:51




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-18-2004 18:32:12  
IMHO the 90 series is ten times the tractor that the 70 series is.

It is in creature comforts mostly though.

The basic mechnicals are the same (engine and trans share a lot of parts).

The main differences as I see them are as follows

Battery placement. On the 70 series they are both in the same tray under the left side of the cab which has to be pulled out and off the rails unhooking the battery cables as you go. The 90 series has them in a nice tray that swings out and makes servicing them 100 times easier.

Cab. Don't even begin to think the cabs are the same. The dash and it's shrouding are connected to the frame of the tractor on the 70 series. perfect for conducting heat and noise right up in the cab. 90 series the cab is a isolated pod with all things in the cab being rubber isolated from the rest of the tractor.

The hydraulics of course went to closed center on the 90 series. Don't know what you are intending to do with the tractor. If all you want here is to raise and lower implements either will work fine. The 90 series does have a float position and flow controls however. Due to the cable connection on the 90 series those remotes are a little more difficult to feather.

We have had a 1070 which we bought new and currently have a 2290 and 2294. For reasons stated above I was happy to see the 1070 hit the road.

Hope this answers your questions.

JT

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R Wyler

09-19-2004 06:53:13




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to big jt, 09-19-2004 00:28:51  
Thanks JT that does answer my questions. I would be happy with either series as long as the thing is in good mechanical shape. I will have to look at them and see what I like the best. I can tell you arent a 70 series fan :>) R Wyler



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big jt

09-19-2004 22:11:07




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-19-2004 06:53:13  
You are right about me not being a fan of the 70 series;-) I hate to see almost any tractor we bought new leave but was happy to see that one go as stated before. Keep in mind this was only the fourth tractor of seven we bought new to be traded off in 80 plus years. Other machines have come and gone but the one owners are hard to come by!!

I had forgotten about the differences in the hood as mentioned later by others that is nice.

The 90 series muffler placement is nice I guess. I think it was more a result of the desire to have a tilting hood though. Only problem here is if you want to put a loader on. I know Case had a kit to get the muffler up against the cab somewhat like the magnums and deeres etc, don't know if that one is still available.

One thing not mentioned earlier is the PTO. The larger frame tractors only had 1000 RPM available. I know the 1070, 2290 had two speed PTO's and the 1570, 2590 had 1000 RPM only. Don't know about the 1370 and 2390 but I think they had the 1000 only (worth checking depending on use).

As to the power shift. There are some things that can go wrong but there is no good way to tell. Common things are the bolts in the cage of the planetaries have been known to shear. The torque limiter can also go out. But as with anything mechnical the only way to be sure it won't break is to not use it.

HTH

JT

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gregin

05-04-2005 14:55:57




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to big jt, 09-19-2004 22:11:07  
We are cleaning up a Case 1570 to sell and already are getting questions about the one speed pto. Some people say they run the engine at half speed and use an adapter to fit 540 rpm pto shafts. Is this acceptable, safe, reliable, recommended? One guy wants to use to run a 15 foot batwing bushhog. Another guy I spoke with has a large Case/IH 1983 model and thought his book said the pto shaft could be removed with a snap ring and turned end for end to change it to 540 spline. Is he right and what year and models did Case do this for? Thanks for your insight, Greg

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R Wyler

09-20-2004 16:05:09




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to big jt, 09-19-2004 22:11:07  
I never thought about that affecting a loader though I can see how it would. I will have to just use good judgment when looking at them and take it from there. I know alot of them are around and being used so they must be fine. R Wyler



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Can't even use my name

09-20-2004 09:58:10




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to big jt, 09-19-2004 22:11:07  
You are correct about the pto's on the 1070's being both 540 and 1000, most were anyways. Only some 2290's were dual pto's and the 1270 up and the 2390 and up were only 1000 rpm.
About the bolts in the clutch pack, ask if they have been sheared off and if so if they tapped the holes and put bigger bolts in. The originals are 3/8 and you can put 7/16 (1/2 with a 94 series clutch pack I think, have one in our 1270) in there to pretty much eliminate that problem from ever happening again and in all the Cases we have had only had one have the torque limiter ring get weak, just changed it too. If you split the tractor have the ring checked out before reassembly. Other than that they are pretty stout trannys. Usually by now most have had the updates done to them but be sure to ask.

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R Wyler

09-20-2004 16:07:14




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to Can't even use my name, 09-20-2004 09:58:10  
Yes that is good to know about them haveing updates in the trannys I will have to keep that in mind. I would preffer to buy one from a good Case dealer that knows these tractors though some of those dealers are not too trustworthy :>) Thanks for the info. R Wyler



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bob123456

06-13-2005 16:58:08




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-20-2004 16:07:14  
Have any of you ever run across a problem of the teeth breaking off the main input gear to the transmission clutch pack? My dad has a 1370 and has broken 3 in a row. One half of the tooth on the main shaft is broken every time. (It is on the side that contacts the larger planetaries.)



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Can't even use my name

09-19-2004 11:53:52




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-19-2004 06:53:13  
We had only the 70 series till this spring when we bought a 2390. Three 1070's (one white one) and two 1270's (one is the latest model white one). Love all of them but the late 1270 is much better than the early one and the 2390 is even nicer yet. Easy to just flip the hood up and get at the engine and the cab is big, easy to get in and quiet. Sure is nice not having the muffler in front of you too. But it is possible to move it to the side on the 70 series, just get the exhaust from turbo on and make yourself a bracket for the muffler. What models are you looking at.

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R Wyler

09-19-2004 15:10:40




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to Can't even use my name, 09-19-2004 11:53:52  
Yes that muffler to the side is very nice. I have not looked at any particular ones yet I am just thinking about them I am interested in 970s 10 and 1270s and 20 22 and 2390s that is the size of tractor I am interested in and a cab is a must. Both series are easy to find in my part of the country I would like to have a 90 series most of all a 2090 would be neat I have never been in one though they look very nice. The thing that I am leary of is the Power Shifts how do I know when I look at one and drive it around if the trans is in good or poor or fair shape? I have never run one and I know how easy it is to spend too much $$ on something that turns out to need alot of $$ in repairs.

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T213R

09-18-2004 18:38:35




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-18-2004 18:32:12  
I suppose you are frustrated too, huh?



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R Wyler

09-18-2004 18:41:19




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to T213R, 09-18-2004 18:38:35  
Yes they are both nice looking tractors I just would like to learn about them so I know what I should get ahold of before I make a mistake and buy one I will be sorry of.



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T213R

09-18-2004 20:17:20




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to R Wyler, 09-18-2004 18:41:19  
Not what I meant! Your question, asked on another board (currantly down for some three days now) would sure get some responses, but here, they'll talk about more about how to prevent the wheels from falling off before they'd offer any constructive ( negative) criticism.

Are you frustrated because CP's bashing board doesn't work too, or not?



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R Wyler

09-18-2004 20:20:04




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 Re: Case 90 series and 70 series tractors in reply to T213R, 09-18-2004 20:17:20  
Yes it is frustrateing I did not realize that is what you meant :>) if you look at his board now he has a link to a temporary forum that is up and going. R Wyler



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