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newbie

09-15-2004 14:55:09




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This site has saved me from a HUGE mistake of trading my MIller Bobcat 225NT for a 1948 MH 44 for 2500.00 value plus 700.00 cash. it runs but has bad tires and is just not in the shape of many I have seen for half the cost. Thanks to all who have input. I have a small farm (42 Acres) in So Arizona I know I will never make a living farming it. I just want a nice old tractor to pull a gannon, a border Disc, hay bailer, and maybe a seeder or a mower. Looks are not important but running condition is. I am a mechanic and black Smith/welder so I can fix almost everything. I am however very tractor ignorant. I"m looking to keep myself out of trouble,debt, and hot water with my new wife. Any wisdom passed down would be greatly appreciated. Mike

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moline

09-15-2004 19:43:02




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 Re: Help with sizeing and implement needs (tractor in reply to newbie, 09-15-2004 14:55:09  
Everyone else answered your question so I have nothing to add.Just a dumb question,what is a gannon?I assume it is probably something we use here in the midwest,we just use different names for it.Just curious.Thanks,Moline



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RN

09-16-2004 16:03:51




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 Re: Help with sizeing and implement needs (tractor in reply to moline, 09-15-2004 19:43:02  
Gannon? Brand name of dirt scraper/box scraper- often used as generic term, as 'bushhog' used for cutter. check Archives. RN



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Leland

09-15-2004 18:42:51




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 Re: Help with sizeing and implement needs (tractor in reply to newbie, 09-15-2004 14:55:09  
Hey guy try looking for a 970 or a 1070 case great little tractors used one for hay ,I could mow rake and bale for a week on 1 tank of fuel. Cheap horse power and you can buy one cheap and there easy to operate takes little effort. and after 10-15 hours you don't feel beat to death.



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newbie

09-15-2004 19:41:36




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 Thanks for the help in reply to Leland, 09-15-2004 18:42:51  
Thank you for the insight. I am going to run a few horses and some bucking bulls. Mainly the hay is for esthetics and dust control. We have a lot of wind here and te ground turns to talk if you do not keep it irrigated or planted with something. We have to flood irrigate here so I need to run dirt boarders to control the water. I will start looking for some of the tractors and empliments mentioned by everyone who put their experience out there. As far as an end loader goes I usually ent one for as often as I need one. We are a small operation and are mainly going to board and care, buck some bulls and run a Bed and Breakfast.

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Leland

09-16-2004 05:08:22




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 Re: Thanks for the help in reply to newbie, 09-15-2004 19:41:36  
I think you need a shrink,I would rather eat a good bull than ride him. You may bruise the meat ha ha. best of luck ridem cowboy..



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T213R

09-15-2004 16:51:01




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 Re: Help with sizeing and implement needs (tractor in reply to newbie, 09-15-2004 14:55:09  
I don't know for sure what Southern Arizona really looks like, but I'd guess that in order to grow anything at all, you're on irrigation? Whatever, I'd suggest that for making hay, since land there is probably flat, that you won't need 6000#+ in a tractor, nor will you need 60+hp either, for putting up hay!

Look for a Ford, or better yet, a Massey Furgeson utility tractor in about the 40-45hp range. There will be multiple models available, and a 1550 Oliver, D14, D15 or D17 Allis Chalmers (newer also works---160, 170, 175) or a John Deere 1020-1520-2020-1530-2030-2510-2520 or 3010 would do as well. John deere's are always expensive. Actually, most any of the tractors in this size (38-60 hp, with preference to under 50hp) built since 1964 will do fine.

Pulling a small square baler will take less than 40hp. Mowing with a 9' moco will take 35-40 hp as well, mowing with a sicklebar will take 20hp, and raking, 15hp. Blading with a 6' blade will require perhaps 20-25hp. brush cutting, with a 6' brush cutter can be done with 30hp, although I'd prefer 50 for heavy cutting. Additionally, after you acquire a primary tractor, you may also find uses for a second tractor, and for that almost anything will do.

Will this 42 acres be home to any livestock, like perhaps horses? You really don't have enough land to support many cattle and you're in the wrong part of the country for hogs. If you have horses, the front end loader advice is important---a wide front end utility tractor with dual hydraulics will be needed, and you'll be looking for a smaller, say 95 bushel or so spreader.

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TheRealRon

09-15-2004 15:51:39




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 Re: Help with sizeing and implement needs (tractor in reply to newbie, 09-15-2004 14:55:09  
You're smart to ask first.

If you think you might ever want a loader, you need a wide front end, power steering, and live dual remote hydraulics.

For baling, you need a live, independent PTO.

Any 4 digit Oliver meets all these requirements and more but for your place a 1650 or 1655 would be perfect. Both can be had in gas or diesel. Both have a strong 3 pt. and drawbar. Hint: get one with Hydraul-Shift. That gives you 18 forward and 6 reverse speeds.

These tractors are basically bulletproof and will work like a dog all day and ask for more. Get the operator's manual and do the routine maintenance and you'll liklely never have to work on it.

Disclaimer: I'm biased. I have a 1650G and would not trade it for 10 of anything else.

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