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Doug/Ont

09-07-2004 07:19:08

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I have to remove a 29 inch diameter Oak stump from a proposed laneway, the Oak has been cut down and sent to the saw mill (nicewood)and it has left me with a 18 inch above ground protrusion so as to facilitate removall. Question, I have dug around the stump with my backhoe (Ford 555) to a depth of 36 inches and broke the roots as I went, does the Oak tree have more roots at the very bottom of it as I can not budge the stump at all. I have removed all the white ceder roots that was also in the way and did not encounter any problems in removal. Any advice as to how I should proceed to complete this procedure without damageing my hoe, would be most appreciated. Best Regards, and many thanks for any and all imput. Douglas.

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FarmerDave

09-09-2004 15:12:13

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

If you got it pretty much expose, how about drilling holes in it, filling them with diesel, and setting it on fire. People claim I'm a pyromaniac, but really, fire is cheap.

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BrokenFences

09-08-2004 18:19:57

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

Spent half a day on my case 850c crawler with hoe to remove on of these. Ended up digging a ramp in to get under it and break the tap root. Still didn't fit in the bucket, had to push it back into the woods. Blasting sounds like more fun.

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Leland

09-07-2004 17:35:12

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

TNT ever seen a stump fly?

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Doug/Ont

09-07-2004 10:54:06

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root. UPDATE in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

I went back at it again, and am now down 5 feet all around the stump, am not encountering any more sizeable roots, but am hitting a large root ball mass. The responses are of great value to me, and I thank each and everyone of you for your kind replies. The stump will still not even rock a little even though it seems perched way up on it's fulcrum. I do not have access to a dozer as I am quite a way out in the country side, it would be expensive to bring one in. Will keep pecking away at it as suggested, if it still will not move, there is always blasting (LOL). The root configuration would point to the Tap root system, Boy what a biggy. Thanks again to all, and will keep you all posted as to my health if I try blasting. (Hope I don't have to go there).
Regards Douglas

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RWK in WI

09-07-2004 17:52:22

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root. UPDATE in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 10:54:06

If you have access to water you can flush the dirt away from the root several feet below ground level and cut the root off with a saw. Be careful sawing as the stump is heavy. Oak roots will break easy once they are weakened.

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Doug/Ont

09-07-2004 19:47:35

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root. UPDATE in reply to RWK in WI, 09-07-2004 17:52:22

Thanks for the reply RWKWI,That is what one of my neigbours suggested, useing a power wash unit. A good way to go I think. Thanks for your help.
Douglas.

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Bus Driver

09-07-2004 10:03:21

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

White oaks have a tap root that goes straight down. Red oaks depend more upon the lateral roots. But I know you can dig down at least 8' deep on the sides of the stump. Dig down as deep as possible on one side, move the machine 90 deg around the stump and pull the stump into the area you just dug out.

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Mike M

09-07-2004 09:52:32

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

That Ford 555 should be a good heavy duty machine and have relief valves set to pop before your hoe. Just keep digging away more and it will come. You can do them with a shovel and an axe if you have enough time.

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Sid

09-07-2004 08:26:23

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

Doug for what it is worth, based on my experience, stay with the backhoe and follow Kevin's advice. You do not have to bang and beat on it. I have seen stumps that had to be dug out because a short stump does not give you much leverage for pushing. If a dozer is handy dig down on one side and let the dozer push in that direction. But I believe Kevins advice will get it out for you.

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Kevin (FL)

09-07-2004 07:30:14

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

Doug,

Down south we have live oaks and many other types of oaks. The water oaks have a shallow root system but the live oak has a "tap root" similar to a pine tree that will go down quite deep. If that's what you're dealing with (or something similar), you can take your hoe and dig a trench on either side or the root, digging as deep as possible and only as wide as the root. Then either push with the bucket or pull with the hoe the top of the stump and the tap root will eventually snap. Sometimes you might only have to dig on one side and it will break in that direction. If it really gets stubborn, you can also dig around the tap root and cut it with a chain saw--but be careful of cave-ins and make sure you have the root/stump on a chain so it doesn't fall on top of you. Think safety however you decide to do it!!!

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TheRealRon

09-07-2004 07:29:54

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to Doug/Ont, 09-07-2004 07:19:08

Tractors and backhoes are not dozers. Get a friend/neighbor with a big dozer (like a D9) and offer fuel costs plus a case of his favorite beverage. It'll take him longer to trailer the dozer than push the stump out.

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txblu

09-07-2004 09:03:07

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Re: OT ...Big Oak Root in reply to TheRealRon, 09-07-2004 07:29:54

Smart man. Know how to get the job done. Grin.

Mark

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