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sandbur

08-20-2004 20:34:11




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Just wondering if anyone out there has any experience with using corn stoves. With the price of LP and no end in site of the price going up, I am seriously considering putting in a corn stove in the basement for supplemental heat. would like to get feedback good or bad on cornstoves, where to buy, installation, what brands, ease of use etc. I am in Iowa.




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Bill in Ohio

08-21-2004 10:30:56




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
The corn makes great heat, but I doubt I will buy another one. The smoke must be terribly corrosive. It literally eats up a stove pipe in one season. The small Snowflame stove I have for a back room is fairly tempermental, the fine stuff must be removed from the corn. This means all the cracked corn, too, and the stove has to be cleaned thoroughly or else the smoke backs up into the corn hopper and it is astounding how fast it rusts out, makes road salt look tame. In the basement we have an Amaizing Heat furnace. It has been pretty decent, probably the most comfortable heat we have ever had, but corrosion is still a big problem. It has been fairly economical heat, especially if you have the corn, how else do you take the heat off your taxes?

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RB/CT

08-21-2004 08:11:19




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
Might be a good year for a Corn stove, with all this rain in the Country this summer, the price is sure to fall along with plenty. Glad someone mentioned Coal, I use an Alaska Stoker Stove, nothing can compare with the BTU output of Coal for heat. Plus its non porous, and could be stored outside. LP gas prices are high like everything else. Just expensive to live in a Cold State.



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buickanddeere

08-21-2004 11:46:24




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to RB/CT, 08-21-2004 08:11:19  
Was the corn stove operated with a brisk burn or just poking along? How dry was the corn? Stoker corn, grain or coal stoves work far better if they feed from the bottom of the firebox. Corn cobs per lb is good fuel but isn't doesn't weight up like coal. Surprising how available coal still is a with a little looking. Some old buildings and industry still uses coal. Ask your local blacksmith where he gets his. With the price of natural gas, LP, electricity and oil. Coal may make a partial comeback. The reserves in just one county of Pennsylvania alone can run the US for 400 years. Coal will cause corrosion as well if the pipes are not cleaned at the end of the heating season. Then again so does wood or anything else.

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KURT (Mi)

08-21-2004 17:44:53




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to buickanddeere, 08-21-2004 11:46:24  
I heard that 1/2 of all electricity in the USA is made from Coal. Would it be economical to buy a coal stove? what does a coal stove cost? what does coal cost per ton, or volume. I know that it is messier than wood.



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buickanddeere

08-21-2004 21:04:52




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to KURT (Mi), 08-21-2004 17:44:53  
Some cost numbers from the manufactures but always take them with a grain of salt. Coal is just one option of many and isn"t the anwser for everyone"s needs. Coal has to be burned correctly or it"s dirty stuff. Some of the comercial coal fuel electrical generating plants and old boiler systems out there are a shame.

www.harmanstoves.com
www.newmacfurnaces.com
www.hitzer.com
www.alaskastove.com/

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KURT (mi)

08-22-2004 04:13:53




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to buickanddeere, 08-21-2004 21:04:52  
Thanks, I will look at those websites. I would think that it would be possible to have an exterior coal stove and feed hot air into my crawl space with a pipe, and since hot air rises it would warm the main floor of the house. I will be adding more insulation to my crawl space today, R10 foam board, I have this now but the crawl space vents dont have foam board covering them up in the winter.

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buickanddeere

08-22-2004 07:21:43




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to KURT (mi), 08-22-2004 04:13:53  
It would be better to duct the heat right into the living area from underneath. Just blowing warm air into the crawl space won"t make it an air version of in floor water heating. As important as insulation is, air leakage/passsage through the building is even more important. Can"t heat the house if the air leaks add up to being the same as leaving a window wide open.



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Joe MN

08-21-2004 11:27:39




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to RB/CT, 08-21-2004 08:11:19  
The BTU content of dry cob corn is nearly identical to coal,and it burns cleaner.



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thejdman01

08-21-2004 07:48:57




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
i have had one for about 8 years absolutly love it. the only thing that might deter you is i have a kid with asthma and its a fairly dry heat and we put in a humidifier but not a big deal. we have what i consider a fairly good set up as the furnace is in the basement and the hopper is in the basement. we have a pipe running from the outside to the hoppper and the gravity wagon is parked right outside the pipe and we only use about 3 5 gallon buckets on even the coldest days and keeps our house 80 deg. we like the pipe and hopper in the basement as it keeps from tracking corn through the house.

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Dale L

08-21-2004 07:16:24




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
I've had a corn burner in my shop/garage for three or four years now. The shop is 36 by 48 and it keeps it no lower than 45 to 50 even on the coldest days.I live in Minnesota and winters can be very cold. They are fairly eazy to maintain and it's so nice to hop into a warm car in the midddle of winter. The only draw back is finding dry corn.My stove burns wood pellets too, but wood pellet's don't heat as hot as good DRY corn. As of late corn has been cheaper than wood pellet's also.

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R.K.

08-21-2004 06:39:31




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
I bought a wood stove last year that sits outside away from house .Hot water piped underground to house furnace threw a a- frame coil in furnace. Its a 8,000 sg. ft. wood burner, will heat 8,000 sq. ft. My house is 2,000 sg ft. and my insulated shop is 1,500sq.ft.I used abt 4 cords of wood last year to heat my home and shop!!!!! !!!. If you have a wood supply ,this is the way to go. Heats my hot water too for pesonal use. I `ve got a Wood Doctor wood burner, love it. Didnt cost a cent for natural gas or propane. I live in N west indiana. It cost around 6,000 for everything, I paid 3200 dollars in 2002 just for propane . P.S you dont have to split the wood burns cured or wet, I fire it every 24 hrs.

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KURT (mi)

08-21-2004 04:20:48




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
What does corn cost per volume. Propane is Suuuppper expensive now. I have a wood stove and I will be using that this winter as much as possible.



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TheRealRon

08-21-2004 05:28:52




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to KURT (mi), 08-21-2004 04:20:48  
Call your local grain elevator, co-op, feed store, etc. and ask them. This is all very highly localized as the cost to ship corn and wood pellets can quickly exceed the value of the product.

I'm at about the same latitude you are and those who can afford the wood pellet stoves love them. Corn is more popular much further south where it's cheap. Firewood is still the cheapest source if you put your own labor in it. But the corn/pellet stoves are incredibly convenient. There are actually some stoves now that burn both.

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KURT (mi)

08-22-2004 10:37:16




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to TheRealRon, 08-21-2004 05:28:52  
WHat state are you in, and what do use for heat?



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Leland

08-20-2004 22:40:06




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
Also look at outside forced air stoves they will help lower your insurance



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chuck

08-22-2004 18:29:40




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to Leland, 08-20-2004 22:40:06  
try and buy corn coming out of the field--from the farmer harvesting it--you can store it at the elevator cheaper than you can buy it from them at retail--this is assuming of course that you cant store the corn in bulk---just do some more investigation---



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buickanddeere

08-20-2004 22:18:10




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
Some people use stoker coal stoves to burn grain, wood pellets or coal. Don"t really recomend burning fuel in a stove not designed for it. Coal is dirt cheap, abundant, throws lots of heat and lasts a long time per fill.



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Robert in W. Mi.

08-23-2004 15:40:21




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to buickanddeere, 08-20-2004 22:18:10  
The coal i bought last fall was $125.00 per ton, and i had to haul it myself. I don't consider thar "dirt cheap".

My friend lives in Ken-tuck, and he just goes out and digs it out of "his" hill side, now that's what i call "dirt cheap!!"

Robert



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mike p

08-20-2004 21:26:46




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 Re: OT Corn Stoves in reply to sandbur, 08-20-2004 20:34:11  
I have had a corn stove in my rec room for 2 years and I just love it. My gas furnace could not even attempt to heat this area as well as my corn stovedoes .As I am unsure of your location you should be able to find any additional info at www.cornstoves.com good luck!!mike



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