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Alternator/tach problem

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Val

08-12-2004 10:36:25




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I have a AC 7000 that has the tach running off a terminal on the alternator. The tach works fine when you start but after I run the tractor for a couple of hours (less if I'm using lights) the tachometer goes way up on the RPM's even though the throttle hasn't been moved. It comes down when you throttle back but is not accurate. I've had the alternator checked out twice and it seems to improve for a short time after each service but doesn't last. Any ideas?? Thanks for the help.

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Ryan

08-13-2004 19:32:45




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 Re: Alternator/tach problem in reply to Val, 08-12-2004 10:36:25  
If you are planning on replacing it, you can pick one up at a local auto parts store. They should have one that runs off the coil. All you need to do is set it for the number of cylinders and wire two wires.



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Allan in NE

08-12-2004 12:59:59




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 Re: Alternator/tach problem in reply to Val, 08-12-2004 10:36:25  
Val,

I don't think your problem lies at the altenator.

The tach is merely counting revs of the altenator by reading A/C voltage cycles (much like the speed sensor does in your car or truck) and converts this value to an analog readout via a "Speed buffer" at the input of the tach.

Sounds like the buffer (an electrical device at the tach) is getting hot and throwing the wrong readings.

Just guessing,

Allan

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Allan in NE

08-12-2004 13:11:04




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 Re: Alternator/tach problem in reply to Allan in NE, 08-12-2004 12:59:59  
I should have added that all the computations of actual altenator speed to engine speed and also the received A/C voltage signal to analog readout take place at the buffer as well.

It's kinda like an electrical gear reduction box.

Hope ya get 'er going,

Allan



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Val

08-13-2004 05:38:56




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 Re: Alternator/tach problem in reply to Allan in NE, 08-12-2004 13:11:04  
Thanks Allan. Any idea whether it's a repairable thing or am I better off trying to find another tach.



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Allan in NE

08-13-2004 06:04:47




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 Re: Alternator/tach problem in reply to Val, 08-13-2004 05:38:56  
Hi Val,

I'm not familiar with your exact application.

But, every one that I've ever replaced were a bolt-on little black box at the back of the tach or speed-O head.

Maybe yours is built into the tach itself, I just dunno.

It's gonna have to be a dealer item tho, because of the ratios involved for your particular model of tractor.

If the dealer doesn't list it separately, then it is internal to the tach, I would think, because that altenator lead is just an A/C tap ahead of the rectifier.

I just don't think that they would build the buffer into the altenator--but, I've been wrong before.

The parts books should call it a "Speed Buffer".

Hope this helps,

Allan

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Val

08-13-2004 10:45:56




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 Re: Alternator/tach problem in reply to Allan in NE, 08-13-2004 06:04:47  
Thanks for the excellent response. It all makes sense. I may just try a used tach from the local salvage yard since I don't have a dealer close by. I have a good relationship with them so they will probably let me try one to see if it solves the problem before I spend any money.
Thanks again.



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