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John Deere B(1949)

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Dave59634

08-04-2004 20:00:12




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I discovered that my crankcase oil was excessively high and when I drained it, it had alot of gas mixed with it which made the oil run out like water. I"ve only had this tractor a short time and it"s the first time I changed the oil. Any ideas why gas is getting into the oil and is there anything I can do??
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Dave




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TimFL

08-05-2004 08:02:47




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 Re: John Deere B(1949) in reply to Dave59634, 08-04-2004 20:00:12  
Another thing I like to do is shut the fuel off while the tractor is running and let it "run out of fuel". For me that extends the time between carb service as mine only runs once a month or less.



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Dave59634

08-05-2004 05:28:29




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 Re: John Deere B(1949) in reply to Dave59634, 08-04-2004 20:00:12  
Thanks for everyone's comments. I will start with the Carb and also shut off the gas, since the tractor only gets started once or twice a month and sits the rest of the time, that solution seems to make the most sense right now. If it doesn't take of it, I'll look at other options such as the compression and rings. I appreciate all the responses and I'm glad I found this website and talkgroup...you guys are great!
Dave

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Jon C- Florida

08-05-2004 03:12:57




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 Re: John Deere B(1949) in reply to Dave59634, 08-04-2004 20:00:12  
Dave - actually its a common problem with this tractor. TimFL, is correct, in my opinion as I have had several B's abd A's with the exact same problem.

The only thing holding the gravity feed fuel back is a little needle valve seat in the float bowl. If the float is sticky, or has a leak or the valve seat has the smallest of crud on it, or needle misaligned, the gas will get through.

As it slowly gets through, it goes in the carb throat, into the rocker arm/valve cover, and through any valve that is partly open into one or both cylinders.

Then, through the rings it will go, trickling slowly into your crankcase until the fuel tank is dry. So if you run the tractor every day, you may not notice it, but after a week or so, the cumulitive effect will surprise you when you have miraculously "made oil".

You need to fix the carb. And you need to get into the habit of shutting the fuel off at the tank every time.....assuming the shut off works well.....which should also be checked.

Drain the oil/filter and start fresh....the tractor will be fine.

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TimFL

08-04-2004 20:26:02




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 Re: John Deere B(1949) in reply to Dave59634, 08-04-2004 20:00:12  
Carburetor. It don't matter what shape the rings are in if the float is stuck or the needle has trash on it. If gas is leaking it will go into the crankcase eventually.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

08-04-2004 20:15:52




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 Re: John Deere B(1949) in reply to Dave59634, 08-04-2004 20:00:12  
Most likely it is coming through the needle/seat in the carburetor. Need to turn ther gas off when nort running. LGD



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Fordson Model F Driver

08-04-2004 20:15:15




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 Excessive oil in crankcase in reply to Dave59634, 08-04-2004 20:00:12  
Is it possible your piston rings are badly worn? If so, (and you are having ignition problems, i.e., a cylinder that skips every now and again) that would allow a lot of unburned fuel to make its way into the crankcase, thereby diluting the oil contained therein. Do a compression check to see if you are within specs.

As for remedies, if your proble, is indeed bad rings there is but one remedy: replace the rings. And since this is a fairly complicated operation, you may as well do a complete rebuild while you're at it. A pain in the neck, I know, but you'll likely never have to do it again...

Good luck to you, and thanks for keeping the old iron running!

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