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Murphy's Laws of tractor repair

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Ryan

08-02-2004 15:58:52




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Well, had an experience in Murphy's laws today. I was putting a split VAC back together and to my amazement the engine just slid right on. I thought it was going to be my day. That is until I noticed that the studs on the replacement engine were too long and I needed to change to shorter ones. 2 hours later the tractor was back together again. Any other observations you all have noticed?

If the two halves slide together with little effort, for some reason you will have to pull it apart again.

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Leland

08-03-2004 09:03:25




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
Sounds how I felt after I forgot the oil filter back on after changing oil.



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G-MAN

08-03-2004 13:47:05




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Leland, 08-03-2004 09:03:25  
Don't feel bad. First time I changed engine oil in a Deere (4230 if I remember correctly), I somehow ended up with two filter o-rings on the darn thing when the old one stayed on the base. What a mess. Of course, there's also the time I replaced oil and fuel filters on an IH DT466 in a truck. All four filters came in a box with two partitioned off in the center. Leave it to IH to put identical threads on both the oil AND fuel filters, allowing improper installation by the uninitiated. Another big mess. But, I never made either mistake again.

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Leland

08-03-2004 16:31:58




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to G-MAN, 08-03-2004 13:47:05  
O yeah my wife was very proud of me also was changing oil by house she did not like new color. It does make quite a mess. also thanks for the heads up about 466 filters never knew that fact.



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Mike (WA)

08-03-2004 08:28:58




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
When trying to dissamble a hydraulic housing, one of the bolts you remove will have a spring and check ball behind it, which will, of course, fly away, never to be seen again.



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G-MAN

08-03-2004 07:40:18




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
It's been my experience that anything you drop will nearly ALWAYS roll right under the very middle of whatever you're working on, so you have to crawl underneath or get a telescoping magnet to reach it. Why? Because that's where the center of gravity is of course, lol. And on those rare occasions that the part doesn't go right to the middle, it will be one of two places. Under a rear tire between the bars or you'll never see it again.

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John K

08-03-2004 08:35:31




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to G-MAN, 08-03-2004 07:40:18  
Restored a 66 Ford Gallexy 500 XL, had no motor but the transmission was still sitting on the cross member when I bought it. The torqu converter was sitting in the rear seat floor boards. As the trany was open to the front to the weather and road dust, I totally dissasembled it ,cleaned it and put it back together. I then bought and rebuilt a 428 and put assembled it all together. Was about to start the motor for the first time but for some unknown reason, I looked in the back seat where the torqu converer used to be and there sat the shaft that runns between the torqu converter and the trany (never noticed it when I picked up the converter. Any way to make a longer story short, I took 2 hours to remove the motor, install the shaft, reinstall the motor and have it running all by my self. Felt kindof bummed out but atleast all was well in the end.

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Fawteen

08-03-2004 03:47:43




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
I hadda split my little 750 JD to replace a leaking gasket between the transmission and rear end.

For reassembly there are two splined shafts that need to line up, the rear end driveshaft and the PTO shaft.

The first time I attempted to roll the rear end back in place and mate it up with the transmission, I wiggled it once and KERTHUNK! it rolled right into place. I stood there for a moment scratching my head thinking "That just ain't natural. SOMETHING must be screwed up." So, I rolled it back out to check. Looked like everything was lined up properly, so I rolled it back into place and KERTHUNK, it just popped right into place again, nary a problem.

No parts left over, and only $15 worth of parts to fix a John Deere on the first try. I think I'd be smart to never work on that tractor again, as I've obviously used up all the luck I'm ever going to have in that department.

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stan

08-03-2004 01:13:05




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
I split a JD 5020, and it went back to gether real hard, so I knew it was going to be ok. Murphy didn't have a chnce this time.



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Mark - IN.

08-02-2004 19:45:22




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
Would that be like being outside cutting metal with a torch on the coldest day in history, and having things go so well that it feels hot, only to find out that the back of your thoroughly worn out carhart is one big smoldering hole?



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DRL

08-02-2004 17:06:31




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
That's been my experience. If everything just falls into place, I have probably left a piece out. You know the one. Way up in there where you have to tear everything all the way down to correct the mistake.



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john *.?-!.* cub owner

08-02-2004 16:53:49




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Ryan, 08-02-2004 15:58:52  
Murphy was an optomist.



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Jon C -Florida

08-02-2004 17:24:28




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to john *.?-!.* cub owner, 08-02-2004 16:53:49  
And to my knowledge, Murphy never owned a tractor.



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murphys brother

08-02-2004 18:16:53




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Jon C -Florida, 08-02-2004 17:24:28  
yes he did 9n ford



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RT

08-02-2004 17:55:37




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to Jon C -Florida, 08-02-2004 17:24:28  
Good answer!!



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UFO Man

08-02-2004 18:20:10




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to RT, 08-02-2004 17:55:37  
Murphy's Law applies to only part of mechanical work. There are others, who have added their names to the challenges faced by do it yourselfers.

For instance: Johnson's Law states that if you drop a part or a wrench, it will bounce or roll to the exact geographic center under the vehicle on which you are working so that you cannot reach it from any angle.

Happens all the time.



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UFO Man

08-02-2004 18:17:04




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 Re: Murphy's Laws of tractor repair in reply to RT, 08-02-2004 17:55:37  
Murphy's Law applies to only part of mechanical work. There are others, who have added their names to the challenges faced by do it yourselfers.

For instance: Johnson's Law states that if you drop a part or a wrench, it will bounce or roll to the exact geographic center under the vehicle on which you are working so that you cannot reach it from any angle.

Happens all the time.



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