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OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All!

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Nathan

07-27-2004 21:07:43




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Which one is correct-- bush hog or brush hog? I've seen both so many times that I'm thoroughly confused. SO WHICH ONE IS IT?!?!

Thanks for the replies,
Nathan




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Hugh MacKay

07-29-2004 00:37:13




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Nathan: I decided to check back, just to make sure this subject got resolved. I've now read all and decided you have done an excellent job on it, together with the 51 respondants. Very conclusive, I'm sure it will be awhile before the subject is tackled again. Now if we just knew what soda pop is.



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Neither, It's a Rotary Cu

07-28-2004 21:18:07




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
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Nathan

07-28-2004 20:18:44




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Well, I've read thru almost all of the replies to my suprisingly popular question, and it seems that the only definitive answer is, YES!



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UFO Man

07-28-2004 17:26:08




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Shredder.

That's what we call them in this part of Texas. But I don't use that word on this forum anymore, cuz all the "what are you talking about?" replies I got.

Generally noted as "that thing on the back of the tractor that cuts grass and other stuff and when you run over the basketball with it shoots it about 100 yards in six pieces." Or so says my neighbor's kid after an unfortunate accident.

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Mark - IN.

07-28-2004 20:10:04




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to UFO Man, 07-28-2004 17:26:08  
Well UFO, I'd say that you just about covered it. If the guy I'm talkin to says brush hog, so do I. If he says bush hog so do I. But I've got a question for you. Remember that picture awile back of that big blue Ford articulated job with that thing that kind've resembled a mower that wasn't wide enough to cover a path to cover the insides of it's tires hangin off back? What the heck was that? Wasn't wide enough to be a mower, not for that thing. What the heck was that thing anyway? Ha Ha Ha.

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RAB

07-28-2004 15:09:19




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
When you've read this lot, settle for both, either or neither. Got that? Straight now?
Regards, RAB



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I'm NOT Going To Read All

07-28-2004 13:49:12




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Neither is correct,

They all are "rotary cutters"!! Bush Hog is a brand. Just like Woods, or John Deere is a brand!!

Brush hog is the "slang" word used for all the brands of Rotary cutters. Around here they are called "brush Hogs" if your useing slang, and "rotary cutters" if you aren't

Robert.



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I beg to differ

07-28-2004 19:52:07




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to I'm NOT Going To Read All, 07-28-2004 13:49:12  
Landpride=rotary cutter
Alamo Group Industrial=rotary mower



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Robert in W. Mi.

07-28-2004 20:59:01




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 Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and in reply to I beg to differ, 07-28-2004 19:52:07  
What are you differing about????

Perhaps i wasn't clear, but i never ment to leave out any other brands of "rotary cutters" that i didn't happen to mention, as that list is waaaay to long to wrtie them all down. I'm sure there's lots of them out there that i don't even know about too.

Robert



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J.C. IN AZ.

07-28-2004 12:34:33




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Hey Nathan. Now see what You started?



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Nathan

07-28-2004 13:52:28




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to J.C. IN AZ., 07-28-2004 12:34:33  
Yeah, I had no idea at the time that the question would be so popular!



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49 Cubber!

07-28-2004 12:14:04




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Does it really matter?There will alaways be some seksual intellectual wholl correct when your wrong!BUT,around my house,its a bushhog,at my local dealer its a bushhog,on here I say brushhog since the first time I used the words bush hog and some jack o@@ told me I was wrong.



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rustyfarmall

07-28-2004 11:54:14




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Has anyone heard of them being called whirl-i-gig mowers?
How about whirly-bird mower?
I have heard both of these terms used.



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JDB

07-28-2004 10:22:37




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
They get a whole new list of names when they're broke down



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John

07-28-2004 09:12:20




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
They are all BRUSH HOGS in my neck of the woods. Maybe that is because we have "brush" around here and that's what we cut it with. If we have a "bush", it is in the yard and the wife gets mad if we cut them down. As for the other types of things known as "bush", we won't talk about those here.



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Sam

07-28-2004 09:03:03




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Same problem with Haybine, Discbine, Payloader, Bandaid, Sawsall, etc. All brand names but used generically.



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Tom

07-28-2004 07:20:10




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Looking at 3 phamplets printed by the Bush Hog Company, Division of Allied Products Corporation. The phamplets all use the term "rotary cutter"



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Joltina

07-28-2004 08:41:52




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Tom, 07-28-2004 07:20:10  
it is a bush hog it is on television all the time



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vfirman

07-17-2005 07:07:38




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 Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and in reply to Joltina, 07-28-2004 08:41:52  
has anyone ever known TV to be right or unbiased?
1. rotary cutter...correct (IAW random manufacturers).
2. brush hog...commonly accepted term for the #1. above.
3. bush hog...ditto on the #2 answer.

All three are acceptable terms of communications concerning this type of "cutter/mower".



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kyhayman

07-28-2004 06:46:54




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Kind of like what you call that thing behing a square baler that you put hay on. Could be a wagon, flat wagon, flat rack, hay rack, etc. Depends on where you are from.

Around here (in my observations) it's a bush hog if you are talking generic, Bush Hog if you are talking brand name, a shredder is in the kitchen for cheese, a brush hog is a wild pig or a bush hog from somebody north of the Ohio River, and a rotary mower is in the yard. All part of the local dialect in your part of the world. Even the folks that make them cant decide on a single name for the product.

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paul

07-28-2004 06:40:02




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
There is no bush hog with lower case. As a trade mark, Bush Hog refers to one popular manufaturer of rotory mowers (and other implements). Much like Kleenex refers to a popular facial tissue.

Since 'rotory mower' can refer to all types of different designs - heavy duty like you are refering to, finishing mower, even a flail mower is 'rotory', to describe a real heavy duty brush cutting rotory mower but avoid the trademark issue (Bush Hog must protect it's trademark or lose it, so if you publish in a widely ciculated publication you will get a letter from their lawyers if you would refer to a generic mower as a 'bush hog'), most folks call them brush hogs.


I'm confused about the terms 'disk harrow' to chase down different regional terms. Where did that come from? A disk has the round blades on it, a harrow has teeth of some type to level ground. How did it come about to call a 'disk' a 'disk harrow'?

--->Paul

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rustyfarmall

07-28-2004 11:48:30




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to paul, 07-28-2004 06:40:02  
The term "disc" refers to disc shaped blades, there are also disc plows, which do the same thing as a moldboared plow. The disc harrow is just what the name implies, and the harrow with the spiked teeth is actually called a drag harrow.



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MIke (WA)

07-28-2004 18:02:15




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 Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and in reply to rustyfarmall, 07-28-2004 11:48:30  
Which just points up the differences in local jargon- around here (Washington), a spike tooth is a spike tooth, and a drag harrow is a pasture harrow. Note to Nathan- aren't you glad you were able to clear all this up?



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Mike (WA)

07-28-2004 07:56:57




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to paul, 07-28-2004 06:40:02  
You've got your spike tooth harrows, spring tooth harrows, pasture harrows, etc.- Disk harrow is just another kind of harrow (to dig up the dirt, for lack of a better term). What really should be bothering us is the term "harrow bed" applied to the hay bale pick up/stacking/unloading machines. How is that like a harrow? Maybe when it falls apart- like my 85 year old, mostly deaf neighbor who was pulling a hay rake some years ago, oblivious to the fact that the back wheels had fallen off and it was just dragging, with stuff falling off and a cloud of dust. Another neighbor went out in the field, stopped him, and said, "Leroy, what are you doing?" Leroy replied, "Any fool can see that I'm raking hay." Neighbor replied, "Well, to this fool, it looks more like your harrowin'."

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Dave in GA

07-28-2004 06:25:51




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Rotary cutter is what they are regardless of brand name. But nobody says they're going out back to do some rotary cutting. They say they're going to do some bush hoggin.'



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Txsprigger

07-28-2004 05:55:21




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Neither one. Around here, they are all known as SHREDDERS.



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Farmered

07-29-2004 05:14:06




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Txsprigger, 07-28-2004 05:55:21  
I jest couldn't let this one get by without comment. A shredder is another type of implement.
It consists of a rotor with a horizontal axis which is well hung with free swinging flails and is used primarily for breaking up corn stalks and raising a lot of dust. Just sharpen the flails and it becomes a flail mower. Ed



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Indydirtfarmer

07-28-2004 05:48:15




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Old habits are hard to break. Around these parts, farmers call them bush hogs. regardless of who makes them. The "yuppies" call them brush hogs. When I hear people from other parts of the country calling them brush hogs, my first reaction is to think I'm dealing with a rookie. Guess that isn't so, but like I said of the old habits..... ..
To me, they're all bush hogs. I'm sure that Bush Hog, the company, doesn't mind all the free publicity. Rotery cutter sounds to "city" to me. (Makes me think "lawn mower") JMHO. John

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Garry

07-28-2004 10:16:16




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 07-28-2004 05:48:15  
John, I was wandering if I was the only one having this thought. A lot of us also still refer to all sodas as cokes. I like to call the cutters bush hogs.



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Indydirtfarmer

07-28-2004 10:41:15




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 Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and in reply to Garry, 07-28-2004 10:16:16  
I was going to mention the Coke thing while ago..... .Another fine example of the #1 brand name being assigned the "generic" title of choice. I've noticed that soft drinks get a different name depending on what part of the U.S. you're in. i.e. soda, pop, soda pop, soft drink, Coke, ect. John



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Van in AR

07-28-2004 06:52:22




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 07-28-2004 05:48:15  
Lots of "non rookies" down here call them "bush hogs" "brush hogs" and just "cutter" is also used alot. The move ins from up north come to the dealership and want a "big mower" or "estate mower", one guy wanted a "spinnie thing". I guess rotary cutter is correct, but to me they are also all "bush hogs".
Van



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paul

07-28-2004 06:44:00




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 07-28-2004 05:48:15  
Actually, under trademark law, if your name is used too commonly, you can lose the trademark & your name becomes an unprotected common term. Klennex ran into that situation a decade or 2 ago, had to really clamp down on publishers who were using the term commonly in publications.

The 'free publicity' is a double edged sword in that regard.

--->Paul



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thurlow

07-28-2004 06:20:32




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 07-28-2004 05:48:15  
When I was a kid and we first got electricity (1949), couldn't wait to get us a Frigidaire....like the city folks had; of course ours wound up being a Westinghouse and other folks had GEs and Hotpoints and Kenmores....to us they were all Frigidaires.



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Red Dave

07-28-2004 05:30:03




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
We call them all Bush Hogs. Bush Hog is just one brand, but it's used as a generic term for all of them. Kind of like "Band-Aid" or "Kleenex".

'sides, who really cares what you call it?



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old fashioned farmer

07-28-2004 05:09:07




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Howdy folks,

Like the others, I have to go with rotary cutter. One point I do want to bring is the brush vs. bushog idea. I've heard a similar thing with wheat seperators. I've even seen books where they're called both threshers and thrashers. Grandad had it right when he called it a seperator. Hope this helps. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

p.s. Loved the pig story..ha ha.



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Leland

07-28-2004 05:07:00




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Nathan were I am from no matter who made it. It's still called a bush hog or chopper. as far as those southerners go is a u-all one of those orange and white trucks we rent to move south with??



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Hugh MacKay

07-28-2004 03:28:02




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Nathan: I have to agree with the rotary mower. cutter or shreader idea. Bush Hog is a trade name, and in my opinion their very best product was their disk harrows.

The idea of brush hog reminds me of a nieghbor who turned about 20 full grown hogs into a field of bushes, without rings in their noses. They cleared the land of bushes and did the primary tillage as well. They even uprooted small trees up to 10' high, and 4" in diameter.

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txblu

07-28-2004 05:41:37




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-28-2004 03:28:02  
Sure can make a mess!

Mark



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Gary in Geneva

07-28-2004 02:59:53




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
I go along with the rotary cutter. Down under I think they call them shredders which is also a pretty descriptive name.

The thing on the front of a tractor I call a loader. A bucket or pail is the small thing that I use to tote things around in. Never seem to have enough five gallon ones.



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hay

07-28-2004 02:26:00




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Bush Hog is a brand name. the correct name for the implement is ROTARY CUTTER.



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george md

07-27-2004 22:12:47




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
Nathan,

Actually it is a rotory mower , and one of the many brands is Bush Hog .

george



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Ron

07-28-2004 05:10:22




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to george md, 07-27-2004 22:12:47  
Actually it's a rotary cutter. Mowers mow grass, cutters also cut small trees and brush.



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buck

07-27-2004 21:44:56




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  

In all fairness this is just one of them things that ain't goina be straightened out cause them machines is always runnin in circles.



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Les...fortunate

07-28-2004 03:36:26




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to buck, 07-27-2004 21:44:56  
ROFLMAO!



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UFO Man

07-28-2004 17:29:19




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 Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and in reply to Les...fortunate, 07-28-2004 03:36:26  
you sick freak



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Wayne

07-27-2004 21:14:23




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 Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For All in reply to Nathan, 07-27-2004 21:07:43  
I'm not expert here, but I know Bush Hog is a name brand, so no matter what your cutting with it is will always be a Bush Hog. As far as the Bush Hog-vs- brush hog I figure it's just a matter of where you are and the local "dialect". It's just a different way of saying the same thing.



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JT

07-27-2004 22:17:50




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 Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and For in reply to Wayne, 07-27-2004 21:14:23  
I agree with you Wayne.

Same thing with tractor loaders. Some call them buckets, some loaders, some even Farmhands. In my mind a bucket is the part of a loader that carrys the material. Farmhand is a brand name like Bush Hog.

JM2CW

JT



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jist lisenen

07-27-2004 23:54:07




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 Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once and in reply to JT, 07-27-2004 22:17:50  
Wall down heer in the ozarks a buket is ether what ya slop the hogs with or what ya put over Betty Lin Sue's hed when she comes over fer supper. Lordy be that there girl is UGLY.



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txblu

07-28-2004 05:40:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once in reply to jist lisenen, 07-27-2004 23:54:07  
cute



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Missouri Boy

07-28-2004 02:52:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out Once in reply to jist lisenen, 07-27-2004 23:54:07  
How about the kinda bucket Grandma puts under her bed at night? or is it a P-pot?



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Jerry L/ az

07-28-2004 04:41:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out in reply to Missouri Boy, 07-28-2004 02:52:38  
naw thats a thunder bucket



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Dan in Wisconsin

07-28-2004 03:40:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This Out in reply to Missouri Boy, 07-28-2004 02:52:38  
I believe that would be known as the "thunder bucket" in these parts.



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Little Ed

07-28-2004 18:50:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This in reply to Dan in Wisconsin, 07-28-2004 03:40:43  
as you all probably know, a rich girl has a canopy over her bed and a poor girl has a canopy under her bed



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JD-Tractor

07-28-2004 09:51:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OK, Let's Straighten This in reply to Dan in Wisconsin, 07-28-2004 03:40:43  
You old fossils on the site should be able to remember when they first came out they were all called brushhogs because they were used to mow anything that we could not cut with a sickelbar bar mower which just happened to be mostly brush and then they came to be widely used to cut weeds in pastures and fallow ground as they would chop everything up and it could be just left in place>



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