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Fritz Campbell

07-21-2004 09:38:47




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I'll back right up here if this subject is too off topic - but since I want to use my truck for pulling a trailer to haul my tractor to shows, I'm taking a chance. I have a 1994 K1500 4x4 extended cab that has the 265-75R16 Goodyear Wrangler T/D original tires still on it (it only had 29,000 miles on it when I got it). It seems like I'm spinning all over with these tires. I would like some advice on what is good choice for new rubber. Ones that are fairly quiet on the highway, heavy enough plys for the occassional load and good mileage - its alot to ask I know. I don't haul heavy material in this truck, don't off road with it and the tractor I'm pulling is '48 JD Model M (no trailer yet but I'm looking). I have Mastercraft brand on the daughters Honda Civic and they have been a decent tire for the price. I know there is big difference between passenger and truck tires. I like the looks of the Mastercraft Courser (sp) line of tires and they are priced right less than $100 per tire. Thanks for the advice.

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tortmort

07-22-2004 19:27:37




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
I have Michelin XPS Traction 235 85 R16 for my 3/4 ton GMC. Load range E and according to my tire shop easily the longest lasting tire for a 4x4. Got them at Costco, special order but they cost a lot. If they last as long as I am told, then they are worth every penny.



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Carm

07-22-2004 05:19:05




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  

BF Goodrich Radial Long Trail. I think is an excellent tire.



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MarkB

07-22-2004 03:20:08




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Fritz, I don't have anything to add about tires, but maybe you need a locking rear differential. This will make a big difference when pulling a trailer.



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Leland

07-21-2004 21:14:41




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
I agree the michelin LT's 10 ply would work best , had a set on my work truck ran till the cords were showing no problems. (boss wanted his moneys worth)But also look at BF GOODRICH michelin owns them now so you get michelin quality at a better price. Sams club sells a lot of goodrich.



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Shane

07-21-2004 19:39:24




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
I bought a set of Pirelli Norseman A/T for my '95 K1500 ext cab last year. They are load range C, 2470 lbs single. That is plenty enough for you. I will tow a skidsteer rather often since it is hay season and it weighs almost 6K plus 2K for trailer. And I have a gooseneck that when loaded flirts with 10K. I so far have 24K on them with lots of life left. They look good and do what I ask of them. Got them from Discount for $501, and that included a whole set of new lugs (aluminum rims and those stupid chrome lugs rust all the time) and their 50K guarantee for tread life and for road hazard protection and lifetime free balance and rotation. The lugs themselves were probably $100 so tires were about $100 a piece. I would look into the Pirellis but I do know that the Goodyear's all seem to last a long time and do well but at a higher cost.

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49 Cubber!

07-21-2004 19:14:01




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Having had a simlar truck,but a 98,I ll throw my 2 cents worth in.When I got it I had the Goodjunks on it,lasted about 13-15000 miles,and I kept tyhem up properly,warranty on them bought me a set of Wild Spirit somethings,lasted a long time,but snow traction even in 4WD was a biut bad,but I made it where I needed to go.I put a set of BFGoodrich Dueller AT,real good tire,but wore kinda fast,maybe 55000 on them.Last set I put on it was the OLD style General Grabber AT.Those tires now have about 40000 on them and they still look real good.(Buddy of mine bought the truck,so I gert to see it alot)

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John R

07-21-2004 18:19:06




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
I have used Mastercraft Courser's and realy like them. No problems with tread seperartion and belt failure. And I tow alot! Last year went to goodyear wrangler and hated them. Just put a new set of Mastercraft AWT on and am happy again. You won't be disappointed.



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Tommy D6-8U

07-21-2004 18:03:23




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Fritz,

I have owned nothing but Michelins for my 92 D-250 Dodge. The original set got 72,000 on two tires and 103,000 on the other three. They probably aren't the best tire for mud or icy conditions but we don't have too much of that here in SC. Another good tire I think if mainly for highway use is the Goodyear Wrangler HT. I used them on a small private fleet where I used to work and they are tough. I personally would not use General or Firestone (I saw too many belt and structure failures from them) but I'm sure others have had good service out of them as well. The guy that I buy my tires from also mentioned a BF Goodrich tire as being pretty good but I really don't remember what type or style it was. I was buying the Michelins no matter what since I've had great service from them. Be sure you get a LT (light truck tire, load range E, 3074 lbs load per tire) and not a P type (passenger car) type tire. Big difference. With all due respect, less than $100 per tire sounds like a P type tire. Good luck!

Tommy

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Mark - IN.

07-21-2004 17:04:52




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Fritz, I don't know a lot about the JD M, other than what they look like. What's one weigh, and the weight of the trailor combined behind that K1500? I know that it's an extended cab, and that sure is a plus, especially on the highway, but will it do ok with the M and a heavy trailor behind and on it? I don't know. Just a thought. I have 8 ply Michelin 265's on my '01 Dodge 2500, and aren't real good with heavy weight off road, but on highway where is used mostly, no problem. I've pulled the Allis B with it several times, but looked at the 1130 Massey, a 10 ton trailor with brakes, and my extended cab, then said no way, not even just down the road. My thought was that losing control of that kind of weight behind a pickup, even if didn't tear the transmission out of it. Maybe I'm just goofy. What ever you do, is best to pay for good footwear once, instead of a lot of cheap footwears several times. My 3/4 ton's already softer more often than not, I'd kind of think a 1/2 ton would be worse.

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Tom

07-21-2004 16:03:53




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Michelin LT M&S, super quite, super traction, super wear. End of story.



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Scott Green

07-21-2004 16:58:00




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 Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Tom, 07-21-2004 16:03:53  
Tom , I use the very tires on my truck as you mention. I've used this tire on my last truck , as well as the truck I have now. I'll never buy anything else. These tires are everything you mentioned. A little costly , but worth it.



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Robert

07-21-2004 14:19:36




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
I have a set of Cooper Discoverer tires on my '01 Chevy 1500.
They seem to be holding up well after 38,000 miles, not too noisy on the highway. I don't have to deal with snow and ice much, though (I'm in central Texas), although I do run into occasional mud, and drive around on my place (sugar sand).
The set cost me just over $500 "out the door", (taxes, hazard coverage, etc.).



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Ron

07-21-2004 13:43:30




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Firestone Steeltex Radial ATs in LT265x75R16 are available from www.tirerack.com for about $110. They are load range "E", wear like iron (I get 70k miles per set on my K2500) and are great in rain and snow.



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be careful with those Fir

07-22-2004 11:12:22




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 Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Ron, 07-21-2004 13:43:30  
Fritz

You sound like a dealor with a website and pricing info.

Hay, didn't Firestone have a problem with their tires in the 90's with tread seperation or was that in the late 70's when tires would experience tread seperation.

I'd hate to find out that they still have the problem in the 00's when one of my tires blows out at 60 mph with a full load.



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Ron

07-22-2004 12:07:17




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 Re: Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to be careful with those Fir, 07-22-2004 11:12:22  
No, I just bought another set and was providing a source for the guy. Is that OK with you?

No, there were never any problems with Firestone Steeltex Radials.



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John R

07-22-2004 15:09:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Ron, 07-22-2004 12:07:17  
There must be a problem with Firestone Steeltex Radials because Ford Motor Company just replaced all five on my Excursion at no cost. Put on Perelli Scorpions. I got a FREE new set of tires and I had 35000 on the old ones. Oh yeah, I did have one blow out and had to replace it before Ford had the recall.



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buickanddeere... any too

07-22-2004 16:08:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to John R, 07-22-2004 15:09:08  
The problem with Ford SUV's being greasy side up in the ditch with a blown tire is mostly the owners and Ford's fault. The Ford SUV's were classified as an automobile so automobile tires were specified. Also Ford used an unusually narrow wheel track width on those tall vehicles making them easier to roll. Owners complained about their vehicle riding and sounding like a truck. So Ford lowered the recommended tire inflation pressure. The failures almost all had these common factors. Hot summer day, in the US south, the vehicle was heavily loaded and was on an extended trip. Now add to this we commonly see people oblivious to the fact their tires are under inflated which further increases flexing, friction & heating. These under inflated car tires were operated in the worst of conditions causing heating. The tires literally devulcanized and came apart at high temps. This winter my truck will need tires and it will likely get top of the line Michelins but the 8 ply Firestones will be considered

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Ron

07-22-2004 15:45:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to John R, 07-22-2004 15:09:08  
I guess I should have been more clear.

There is no recall of any kind for Firestone Steeltex Radial AT Radial tires in LOAD RANGE "E". That's the tire the I recommended. That's the kind I use.

Your Excursion had LOAD RANGE "D" tires on it. Apparently Ford once again put underrated tires on a SUV. I seem to remember the Explorer had a similar problem some years back with tire pressure recommendations.

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buickanddeere

07-21-2004 13:19:38




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Are those Wranglers a two or four ply "car" tire of a real HD 8 ply truck tire? The sporty looking wide low profile comfort tires don't work when towing or provide decent puncture resistance. You must be in Canada and looking at the local Crappy Tire store? The Michelin site lists many different types of tires for various applications. You likely need something decent in snow and on ice.



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MapleStone

07-21-2004 12:25:50




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
Well like most things you will find many opposing comments on these boards.

Me personally, I hate Goodyear tires. I have had a few sets of them (came on vehicles I've bought) and have had terrible luck with them. The structure of the tire wears out before the tread and tires end up vibrating! And I don't really like their treads either.

For my vote, I like BF Goodrich. They are not cheap but they seem to be the best tires I've used. The rubber compounds seem to be a good mix of long tread life and good road adhesion. I've had both the Long Trail and the All Terrain. I like the All Terrain the best but had no complaints with the Long Trails other than when I got in the mud or deep snow.

Good luck!

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Stu

07-21-2004 10:21:57




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 Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Fritz Campbell, 07-21-2004 09:38:47  
My favorite tire for all around performance & wear is the Goodyear ATS. I have 305/70 on my F250. They get last 60,000 miles & will take the truck anywhere I need it to go. The bad thing about Goodyears are the price. My size was close $700.



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Doug in IL.

07-22-2004 06:59:11




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 Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Stu, 07-21-2004 10:21:57  
I just replaced the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S tires on my '97 Dodge Cummins. They had 80,000 miles on them. Probably over 50 percent of those miles were pulling a deckover gooseneck trailer. I replaced them with a new set of the same. About $650 for a new set of four. Also have a '02 Dodge Cummins with Michelins. 50,000 miles on them and they are about worn out.



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Pitch

07-21-2004 16:13:01




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 Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Stu, 07-21-2004 10:21:57  
I totally agree with maple stone. I had Goodyears on a 85 Dorf Ranger from the factory and the were the worst tires I ever had on any vehicle Tires were shot in 50,000 but still had new tread on them. I like Dunlaps but they are noisey I now have a set of BF Goodrich on my '88 1500 for about two years now and they seem to be good tires.



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Fritz

07-21-2004 18:55:11




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 Re: Re: Re: O/T Truck tires in reply to Pitch, 07-21-2004 16:13:01  
I think the M goes 2500 lbs and I'm just looking for a small tandem axle trailer with brakes to haul it. I'm not pulling it that far so hopefully I'll be OK. Thanks guys for all the advice. There sure are alot of choices out there when tire shopping. Since I keep all my vehicles as long as possible - I may check the Michelins for the long haul.



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