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Randy

07-13-2004 17:43:04




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Folks: In talking about mowers, I've heard that a brush hog type with sharp blades can do a pretty fair job of cutting grass neatly and leaving it reasonably smooth, not like a real finishing mower, but not bad. But what about flail mowers? Can they cut to reasonably smooth level? Also, will they cut heavier, taller grass, or are they for shorter, lighter stuff? And are they durable, reliable things? Are they easy to repair, or hard? I'm thinking of cutter repair, replacement. Thanks for your opinions!

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vireyacold

08-15-2005 22:44:29




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 Re: Flail mowers in reply to Randy, 07-13-2004 17:43:04  
Does anybody know where to buy USED parts for Mott aka Alamo flail mowers? Need main cutter shaft pulley etc...

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Gene Davis (Ga.)

07-16-2004 20:22:04




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 Re: Flail mowers in reply to Randy, 07-13-2004 17:43:04  
Have been using A mott flail mower for over 20 years now, actualy I like it much better than the rotary bladed mower,it is much safer, does not throw rocks through the sliding glass doors($250.00). I havecome to the conclusion that you either love them or hate them. I love mine and afterthis season will have to install blades, the ones on it will have lasted 10 years.I added swiveling front gauge wheels,extended the 3 pt.hitch pins and a pivoting third link hookup pin point at the top and when I cut, yhe tractor pulls a floating mower that is free to follow the contour of the land it is mowing, and does not scalp. Also agree with the post about the different kind of flail mower blades. Mine is the light finishing type blades. Gene Davis

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Jim in Oregon

11-16-2004 08:21:16




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 Re: Re: Flail mowers in reply to Gene Davis (Ga.), 07-16-2004 20:22:04  
I'm looking for information on a 8' flail mower, not sure what kind. The number on the outside of the gear housing is WA87-018(or B). It's yellow and has weights welded to the right side, it has a three point pto. I think it may be a Mott/Alamo, but any information you can give me would really help.
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Jim



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Scrub

07-14-2004 19:22:23




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 Re: Flail mowers in reply to Randy, 07-13-2004 17:43:04  
I used a John Deere flail mower where i used to work. It would give a nice cut if you went REAL slow. At normal speeds it cut the grass but did not give a real smooth cut. It tended to spread the grass evenly when you mowed--i.e. when brushhoggin tall grass it will ball up but with the flail mower it spread even. Changing the blades can be a pain. There were ~21 on the one I used and only 2 on a rotary mower. My 5' KK brush hog gives a pretty good cut if I don't let it get to high. Good luck.

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markct -not all are equal

07-14-2004 06:55:11




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 Re: Flail mowers in reply to Randy, 07-13-2004 17:43:04  
the term flail mower is used to cover alot of different types of mowers. for example your brushog is a rotary mower, so it your lawnmower you push across the yard, and so it a finish mower that goes on the 3pt, yet you wouldnt cut down small trees with your push mower would you? well its the same with flail mowers, flail is a style of mower just as rotary is, there are different types of flail mowers, there are some designed to give a smooth lawn look, then there are some that have the capability chop up 4 inch diamter trees all day long. flail mower is a very general term thats why ya get people telling you that they are terrible for brush but great for lawns and another guy telling you they are great for brush and terrible for lawns, its cause they each have a different style of flail, the flail mowers that they use to cut up 4 inch dia trees have forged knives that weigh close to 10 lbs a piece in some cases, i have an old one i use as a auto body dolly sometimes. then there are other flail mowers that use teeth that are just L shaped or V shaped pieces of sheetmetal less than an 1/8 thick often, these are the ones designed for lawns and very light brush, and there are different configurations in the light duty ones too, my father bought a flail mower about 20 years ago when he had no idea there were different types of flails, he bought a used mott brand mower for 500 bucks, it worked great on the field, but when he got into some brush it soon started loosing its little blades like crazy, well when he went to get parts he found out why, it was a finish cut flail, the blades ran at a very high speed and just pivioted on a bolt between too tabs on the flail shaft, so they couldnt take too much abuse, well a few years later we got another flail very cheap that is a slightly heavier duty style, it looks almost identical except it has the blades mounted to a little chain link so they can flop over to the side if they strike anything to rough. this is still not the type you can use for brush but it works great for mowing roadside ditches and briars and other small woody plants. also keep in mind that the flail mowers that are heavy enough to cut up heavy brush will do a very poor job on cutting grass, sometimes they just sorta lay the grass down even. so just remember flail mower is a general term, theres many different types. you wouldnt ask your pushmower to cut down thick brush, nor would you expect your brushog to do a nice job on your lawn, so its just the same with flail mowers

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Tom-nj

07-14-2004 05:54:03




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 Re: Flail mowers in reply to Randy, 07-13-2004 17:43:04  
I think they cut shorter grass less than 1 ft pretty good. The finish is better than most brush hogs but not as good as a finish mower. I just replaced bearings on a JD25A mower and the job took 4hrs.

Tom



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Mike M

07-13-2004 19:44:59




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 Re: Flail mowers in reply to Randy, 07-13-2004 17:43:04  
I like flail mowers better than brush hogs because they are safer when you hit things and they do a much better job of cutting and picking up the wheel tracks. They do take more horsepower when cutting heavy grass. You can cut a lawn with them if you want to they also cut heavy grass weeds small trees 1 to 1 1/2 inches maybe ? and brush..There are different types of blades and blade counts on rotor for fine cut or rough cut.Once you get an area cut down you can mow more often and keep it looking nice. If all you mow is real tall grass over 3 ft ? it will tend to wrap or lots of brush and trees then you would be better off with a brush hog.

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