Kim, could we please...

Thanks either way,

Bill

"Discussion related to miscellaneous tractor topics".

Using your very words, "What is hard about that?" Even I can understand that part so I would think a bright young fella like yourself would have no problem with it. Can you imagine someone on a political discussion forum website making a post like "Massey Harris 101 ignition problem"? They'd probably think the guy was maybe not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But here it's supposed to be OK? Still trying to figure out your logic. Now we're putting the blame on those reading or responding to the posts rather than those making them. Typical thinking these days, blame somebody else right?

I think that OT is fine as long as it pertains to farming or related subjects that are of general interest to past, present, or wanabes. That covers a wide variety of subjects including home, buildings, vehicles, machinery, animals, crops, etc. An infomation forum, "how to" "what's your opinion". I don't think that the few "personal" posts detract either, after all, we are here to help each other, aren't we?

Joe

I'm the guilty joker who posted that post and thanks for showing me how darned out of line I am.

Okay, you want to talk about tractors and agriculture?

Try watching the hail take your crop and leave you nothing but 1/2-inch pieces of stubble for your efforts.

Try watching this happen 3 years in a row.

Try setting in front of that banker's desk and listening to him tell you that you are $600,000 in the rears and that your note is due and it is due now.

Try watching those pot-bellies pull in your yard and load out every critter on the place, go to the sale barn and bring nothing but killer prices.

Try watching that auctioneer sell everything you own & have worked all your life for and watch it go to the iron peddlers for 9 cents on the dollar.

Try putting up with all the neighbors’ down-the-nose glances and those whispers behind your back.

Try scratching and digging to come up with a half a million dollars to keep the wolves from taking your land, which has been in the family for generations.

Try loosing your wife and family because of hard times and no money.

Try driving off the place with all that you own being one suitcase full of old clothes and an old worn out Chevy pickup.

Then spend the next 20 years pawing, fighting, and scratchin' & gouging to get it all paid off and to get back to square one.

Try reading on this forum all those great many posts who describe how great those Regan years were.

No disrespect meant Bill, but I don't think you have a clue about old tractors and agriculture. If I offended you, by golly I'm sorry and I apologize.

I guess I'll just stay completely out of your little tractor club because I've been hailed out before and I'm pretty well used to it by now.

Allan

I'm sorry for the losses you have sustained and think it would be very hard not to become embittered by them. I'm only 24 years old and have experianced loss but not near on the level you have.

Please don't take the way I stated my request the wrong way.

Anyway, everyone is welcome here - including you - and I was very sad to read what you wrote about your farm and family.

Did you get your farm back? I wasn't sure what you meant at the end by "back to square one".

There are people here who care about others - and that includes you. Please continue posting and joining in on the conversations and keep us informed of your situation. Maybe someone here can help in at least a small way.

Kim

First off I want to say that people are more than welcome to discuss off topic subjects here. My feelings are - just don't let them dominate - tractor subjects should be the priority.

That said, there is an OT section already for this board and it has been there for some time. I gave each board its own "OT" area so that those who are use to talking with each other can talk off topic with the same crowd instead of throwing everyone together in a large OT section like Common Ground. It's kind of a volunteer thing, you don't "have to". But if you think your converstation might bother the tractor folks by all means take it next door to the OT room.

If you look on the main Tractor Talk page you'll see a link called "Off Topic" right between "Post A Message" and "Archives". Here is the Off-Topic Forum

Back to what I said about OT here, again I'll say it is not a problem. But I do grimace when I see conversations start up about politics and religion, because they seem to always resort in name calling. So I wouldn't mind if those types of conversations were kept in the OT area.

Thanks for listening,
Kim

When you are reading a discussion (using the Expand option) you'll see that link next to every conversation. If you see something inappropriate just click on that to send a heads-up notice to me.

I check my email about 4 times a day so I can usually take care of things within a few hours.

Thanks Mike
Kim

Thanks for showing me the error of my ways. You can be assured that I won't let it happen again.

Allan