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carla@gibbons m

06-18-2004 14:15:20




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about an old forklift?

If it is, we've just bought an old forklift, which we'd like to refurbish, if not "restore" for our own use at our small shop here in California.

It is a little one, maybe 3000# or so, a "Clark Carloader" of late'30's-mid '40's vintage, I think....(the wooden-rim steering wheel should be a recognition feature, I'd imagine, but the unit just has a "late '30's" look about it)

Has anyone been working on these, and might know of sources for a manual, parts book, and any possiblities for some of the basic small parts we may need, such as a carb rebuild kit, and ignition parts for the engine, cups and seals for the rams, etc.?

cheers

Carla

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Bob

06-18-2004 21:57:42




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 Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask........ in reply to carla@gibbons milcom, 06-18-2004 14:15:20  
I bought one 15 years ago. Mine is either a 1939 or a 1940. We went through it and put new tires on it, new brakes, rebuilt the engine (a continental), paint,had the seat releathered, etc. Basically we just rebuilt it. We used it in a tool and die shop for 5 years, and when I retired the forklift retired with me. Please note the only thing I changed on the forklift was a roll cage that I had added to it. They did not come with a roll cage back then. (osha requirements compelled me to add the roll cage for safety purposes). There should be no problem getting parts for it. I bought all my parts through my local clark dealership. Please email me if you have any questions that I may be able to assist with. Also, I would like to see a picture of your forklift. Regards, Bob

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Davis In SC

06-18-2004 20:52:24




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 Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask........ in reply to carla@gibbons milcom, 06-18-2004 14:15:20  
Carla, parts may be hard to find for a lift of this age... Most likely, engine is a Continental, Waukesha, or something similar. Parts should be avaliable, you might start by looking at a NAPA store. Lift & tilt cylinders should not be a problem, any hydraulic shop should be able to fix them, same for hoses.. Try to find a forklift shop that appreciates the fact that you are trying to preserve a vintage machine, perhaps they will help you out for a fair price. When you get it running, please be careful, older lifts were narrow & easy to turn over. A friend of mine had an old A-C "Mankiller", I forget how many times he laid it on it's side. His son finally made him sell it & get a modern lift..... Regards, Davis

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geok

06-18-2004 20:07:30




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 Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask........ in reply to carla@gibbons milcom, 06-18-2004 14:15:20  
This brought back memories. Years ago someone had junked an old 40 series clark lift to a local scrap yard. We bought it from the scrap yard and got it running and fixed the lift. Used it for 16 years then sold it to a warehouse and they have had it at least 10 years and still using it. We did not use Clark for parts, we went through other sources. Auto machine shop for engine parts. Hydrauic parts supplier. Machine shop for other items.

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jls

06-18-2004 20:30:24




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 Re: Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask....... in reply to geok, 06-18-2004 20:07:30  
just did a fence for guy that ran lifts @ steel mill . they had first lifts they bought that had a dual fuel system, when it was cold they couldn't start em so they ran 24/7 for months retired w 35+ yrs and the old lifts were still there, outlived 3 or 4 generations of newer machines.



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buck

06-18-2004 18:24:36




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 Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask........ in reply to carla@gibbons milcom, 06-18-2004 14:15:20  

Have a friend who was head of the maintenance shop for a large trucking company for years. When he retired the company presented him an old Clark forklift ( similar to the one you describe) He told me that each year at appropriations time they would ask if he would consider a new one and his answer was always no. He ran a nice machine/repair shop on the side and went bigtime when he retired so it came in real handy.

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Dick2

06-18-2004 15:31:10




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 Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask........ in reply to carla@gibbons milcom, 06-18-2004 14:15:20  
A forklift of that vintage would more commonly known as Liability I,II and III. Pretend it never happened and scrap it before someone uses it.



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Carla

06-19-2004 13:22:05




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 Re: Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask....... in reply to Dick2, 06-18-2004 15:31:10  
Now,now, Dick, thats not a nice thing to say, at least without further data.....

If we were thinking of using a '30's forklift in a busy warehouse, and employing the generality of "minimum wage worker" to operate it, yes, you'd have a fair point..... but that's just not the case, in this instance.

We deal in surplus, on a very small scale, and I do restoration/refinishing of old widgets of one sort an another. Our actual need for a forklift is rather limited, but, as has been said about some other classes of items, when you need one, nothing else will take its place.

Sure, those old forklifts will tip over if run carelessly.....but, if used with reasonable caution, they do just fine....

Years and years ago, I knew an older gentleman who had a small business rebuilding forklifts for the canneries in San Jose, Cal, where the forklifts were used very heavily during cannery season..... loading out thousands and thousands of tons of palleted canned goods.....the fork trucks would be literally worn out, running at high speed 24hrs/day, then overhauled after cannery season was over. Accidents were quite few and far between, as the cannery management took care to train and retain careful operators.

In short, yes, the workers of today apparently cannot be trained or expected to work carefully and prudently.....but, in this instance, I'll be running this old Clark myself, and, even if I do say so myself, I know what I am about....(I may follow the example of an old rigger I knew, who took the overhead cage off his 6000# Clark, and threw it away.....his explanation for that was that he didn't need it himself, and not having it on the forklift was his "reason" why he "just couldn't" allow anyone else to use his old Clark...."well, its just not safe for anyone else, you understand".)

cheers

Carla

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the question was

06-18-2004 20:29:51




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 Re: Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask....... in reply to Dick2, 06-18-2004 15:31:10  

Where do I get parts , not should I junk it . many of us use very old equipment. appearently you have never started a small business and needed equipment that was low budget.



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Dick2

06-19-2004 07:57:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask... in reply to the question was, 06-18-2004 20:29:51  
You can afford the lawsuit?



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Davis In SC

06-18-2004 21:01:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask... in reply to the question was, 06-18-2004 20:29:51  
On subject of low-budget forklifts, there are some bargains out there. A guy I know bought a 1996 Yale 8000 lb lift at an auction for $1250.00. I was there, & should have tried to get it myself. All it needed was a new seat & a starter solenoid, it took several tries to get starter to engage... That amount of money will not even start to rebuild an old lift. ... Don't get me wrong, I admire Carla for wanting to restore a vintage machine, I am just concerned about the safety issues..... Regards, Davis

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Mike in CT

06-18-2004 16:01:32




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 Re: Re: Is this an appropriate place to ask....... in reply to Dick2, 06-18-2004 15:31:10  
You might still get some parts at clark lift. I know there is a trade mag. with a bunch of used suppilers who advertise in it, I think it's called material handling. You might search the web for info. If thats the truck I'm thinking about, those are kind of sketchy. We have one we use once in a great while for going in small elevators and walk through doors. Becareful on it they tend to want to flip over easy.

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