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dirthog

06-09-2004 03:27:34




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Just got back from my friendly local Case dealer,
bought a nut which secures the rear drive sprocket on a case 350 dozer for $ 31.00.
$31.00 freakin dollars for a nut.
I had to bust 2 to get 1.
Made me feel like I was getting a good deal on the $2.15 a gallon gas I had to pump into the truck to go pick it up. Must be a union made nut.




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KURT (mi)

06-09-2004 15:47:09




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
If that nut was standard thread then I would have been able to make it for you, for a great low price of say..... ..$29.50. If that nut was say a 1"-14 thread then I could make it in about 30 minutes on the lathe at work.



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varmint

06-09-2004 07:46:12




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
Ya shoulda gone to Wal-Mart an got a Chinese nut.



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dirthog

06-09-2004 14:15:27




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 Re: Re: painful nut in reply to varmint, 06-09-2004 07:46:12  
I would have gladly used a Chinese nut, if I could have found one and it was priced at the 8 or maybe 10 bucks that it could have possibly been worth. It kills me when people try to justify someone getting ripped off because of inventory or shipping or whatever. Yeah I could have got the nut for like 18 dollars if I didnt need it right away. They got you buy the balls, they know it, thats why a simple nut costs over $30.00.

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Ron in AR

06-09-2004 06:53:01




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
Remember many years ago (many many) I needed a U joint for my Studebaker. Parts guy (who was a friend fortunately) looked it up and told me $32.00. I about fell over! That was a ridiculous price at that time! He helped me get my chin off the counter and then said, "Now if you ask me for one for a 19?? Ford Fairlane it'll only cost you $6.00. Same part number, same piece." Seems that was one way to get more money out of supposedly harder to find parts. Sure glad he was my friend! Taught me a lesson though, check for alternatives before you shell out the big bucks.

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paul

06-09-2004 08:48:22




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 Re: Re: painful nut in reply to Ron in AR, 06-09-2004 06:53:01  
I was fixing up an old row unit wheel at the Case dealer. He looked up the 2 small bearings for quite a while on the computer. He says the IHC bearings are $15 each. From our sprayer company division, same bearing - different OEM - is $5. Which do you want?

--->Paul



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Pat Rivers-Bowerman

06-09-2004 06:08:06




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
Mass production makes great volumes of common parts readily available; but then they have to sell in volume to make the $$$.

My Dad [whom I inherited the Super A from] was also a machinist - he could have turned that nut out for you on his lathe, in several hours. But then his skilled labour at $xx per hour ?!

My son paid Mr Suzuki's concern $8 for a Metric Rear Axle castle nut - it had the one thread pitch of 3, that we did not have a tap for. Still cheaper than going down the asphalt on front wheel only.....

Gas here is equivalent of US $ 2.68 per US Gallon.
My old ship-mate who commutes from France, was paying the equivalent of US $ 4.60 per US Gallon and that was before the Saudi Arabia bombings sent it all up. There are no Gaz-Guzzlers in France, for the ordinary man.

When you don't live atop an oil-well - this is what ya gotta pay.

Cheers
Pat from New Brunswick

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rhudson, that ain't nothi

06-09-2004 05:29:40




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
a sheet of 5/8 plywood at lowes cost 32.98



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Ron

06-09-2004 04:22:43




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
No wonder your dealer can be so friendly!

Actually Dan gave you some great advice. In a more general sense, here's the problem. You are expecting a dealer to sell you a commodity item. They buy small quantities, they sell them infrequently, they have to mark it up to cover inventory carrying costs and profit, etc. But the commodity item is widely available from the same sources your dealer bought it.

I once had a guy tell me he went to his Chevy dealer to get an o-ring seal for a TBI. They wanted $15. I sent him to a hardware store and he got 10 of them for $1.00 Same Buna-N material, same size, and it worked perfectly.

Dealers are great for parts available nowhere else. For everything else, go anywhere else!

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Buzzman72

06-09-2004 05:37:42




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 Re: Re: painful nut in reply to Ron, 06-09-2004 04:22:43  
"Back in the day," that is, back when IH made their own bolts with the "IH" logo on the head, with what IH called "CT" pricing, the regular hardware guys couldn't touch IH's price to the dealer on bolts...Not Lawson, not Parts Associates [PAI]...not NOBODY! But those days are long gone, and only the memories remain...



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Dan in Wisconsin

06-09-2004 04:09:41




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 Re: painful nut in reply to dirthog, 06-09-2004 03:27:34  
Geez! Here I thought you were going to say you just got back from the doctor. Seriously, I had a similar situation with a nut for the end of a plunger rod on a hydraulic ram on my 550 Ford TLB. The dealer wanted , I believe, $24 plus tax. I backed away and did some checking and found the same nut at Fastenal for less than half the cost.



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Pitch

06-09-2004 08:56:29




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 Re: Re: painful nut in reply to Dan in Wisconsin, 06-09-2004 04:09:41  
When I was younger I had a Chrysler New Yorker. Did'nt take long to start buying parts for a Dodge Monaco.



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