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Plowing Rye and Peas:

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Dick

06-05-2004 22:23:39




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Having a problem plowing rye and peas for a cover crop. We're using a four bottom plow and since the peas are so over-grown, it's a tangled mess and plugs every 50 ft. or less. Should have been plowed down earlier but the field was too wet to plow sooner. The 5 ft. rye doesn't seem to be a problem but the pea vines tend to ball up and plug the plow between the coulters and the plow. Someone suggested chopping before plowing but I'm afraid this would only be worse to try to plow under. I'm sure some of you out there have had simular problems and may be able to offer some advice.

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Dick

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Bob

06-06-2004 12:10:36




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 Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to Dick, 06-05-2004 22:23:39  
Often, plows set up for plowing under tangled green matter are set of with a coulter ahead of EACH bottom. Is yours so equipped?



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Dick

06-06-2004 17:00:04




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 Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to Bob, 06-06-2004 12:10:36  
Yes,, the plows have coulters in front of each plow. We tried raising and lowering them but still have the same problem of plugging.. Just too much pea vines.. I think the others are right,, disc it and chop it up, let it dry a couple of days and see how this works.. We'll give that a try as soon as the rain stops and things dry out a little..

Thanks,
Dick



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paul

06-06-2004 22:23:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to Dick, 06-06-2004 17:00:04  
Old plows just didn't have enough clearance. From one bottom to the next, & from the top of the ground to the top of the frog.

In addition, if less than an 18" coulter, it's worn out. Lots of old plows have them worn down to 12-14" - worthless. Might as well throw them off, no point something that small is along for the ride.

Sometimes a wire about 10' long tied to each coulter shank way down low, & flopped over into the furrow behind it helps. It knocks over the tall stuff, folds it down & makes it pull under the ground. Burries all the green stuff too, which is nice.

--->Paul

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JP

06-06-2004 11:56:12




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 Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to Dick, 06-05-2004 22:23:39  
If you disc the peas first the disc will cut up the vines and then they should p[low good after that, but before you plow it, give the vines a couple of days to dry out.



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Roy in UK

06-06-2004 04:48:12




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 Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to Dick, 06-05-2004 22:23:39  
Give it a good discing a few times, then roll it down. Then it should plow alright.



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nebraska cowman

06-06-2004 02:59:28




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 Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to Dick, 06-05-2004 22:23:39  
If it were me I would turn the cows in. If only I were so lucky. My cows are in a drouthed out wheat field and when that is done they are going to town.

The wind has blasted all the wheat,
The bossies have no grass to eat,
We pray for rain, or hail, or sleet,
But all we get is dust and heat.
Ahhh, Sweet Nebraska Land!



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zoidburg

06-06-2004 05:32:55




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 Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to nebraska cowman, 06-06-2004 02:59:28  
Ah, nebraska land, sweet nebraska land
on this burning soil I stand, I look away across the plains
and wonder why it never rains
in nebraska land sweet nebraska land



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UFO Man

06-06-2004 06:43:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to zoidburg, 06-06-2004 05:32:55  
Ya'll are poets and don't know its,
your big feets show its:
they're Longfellows



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nebraska cowman

06-06-2004 07:13:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to UFO Man, 06-06-2004 06:43:17  
Our horses are of bronco race,
Starvation stares them in the face,
We cannot move, we only stay,
Cuz we're too poor to move away.
Ahhh, Nebraska Land

But there is a "wet" version for those of you "Rain Hogs"

The last verse goes like this....

But with a smile upon out lips, We stand in mud up to our hips,
Prarie land so fertile and rich,
We think you are a ....honey
Ahhh. [insert state here] Land

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zoidberg

06-06-2004 09:03:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to nebraska cowman, 06-06-2004 07:13:51  
So, did you watch the Roger welch special on public Tv too? Good luck, it's tough in your corner of the state.



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Farmered

06-06-2004 21:44:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing Rye and Peas: in reply to zoidberg, 06-06-2004 09:03:14  
Have you tried using a drag wire? Take about a ten foot piece of No. 9 wire and fasten it around the coulter post and let it drag back under the furrow slice. The result is that it will fold all that material under the furrow and cover it. Works on corn stalks too. Use one for each plow bottom. Ed



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