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Bill Pa

06-04-2004 07:11:05




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If you guys were to farm about 150 acres of corn, beans, and a litle bit of hay, what size tractor would make it possible to do after work and on weekends?




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Paul in Mich

06-04-2004 20:58:37




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
Bill, While it is entirely possible to farm 150 acres with one tractor, I think you'll find that just for convenience sake you will eventually want 2 or 3. If, however, I were to start up and could only mnake due with one tractor, I would look for a good IH 966 or 1066. An IH 856 is also a very good tractor, as is the 1456. Do yourself a favor and dont even consider anything but diesel, as they are so much more economical than gassers. Once you have your core tractor, then you might add a smaller tractor for pulling fertilizer boxes, grain carts, seed wagons, hay wagons etc. A good second tractor is a IH 656, although there are a lot of 60-80 hp tractors that would fill the bill. actually the John Deere 3010 or 3020 is a good tractor if you dont mind paying for the John Deere name. The 656 is also a good tractor to bale hay with, or run a swather. 150 acres is a good one man operation, but if you need more than one thing at a time done such as cultivating or spraying while you are trying to finish working ground or planting, then one tractor will spread you quite thin if you have s small window to get crops in. This year with all the may rain is such a year that the window is very narrow. Wives come in quite handy when it comes to periferal tasks, and that extra tractor earns its keep in a multitude of ways.

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John A

06-04-2004 20:42:31




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
Bill, My choice and the one I own is a 966 +- 100 Hp loaders are readly availble If wanted can cover 100 or more acres on a weekend.
Will pull most if not all 12 to 16 ft equipment.
TA if good, kept in adjustment, USED Properly, Only, in direct. Low side in tough spots then back into direct. This should last a fellow a long time.
Mine carries about 800 #s of cast on each rear corner. No worry when handling round bales.
Good luck on you hunt and whatever flavor of color you end up with.
OBTW.....
IMHO... If you look @ JD green.....Loose the 4020 ...Look for a 4520/4620 PS, Has the additional HP + a HD front end for loader work that the regular 4020 didn't have.
Later,
John A.

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Jonathan

06-04-2004 20:07:46




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
Your conventional tillage is what requires a big tractor. What I mean by conventional is plowing and harrowing etc... chisel plows are also quite popular and are a good idea, but those pull hard. I worked for a farmer who had a 150 acre farm and he had a White 2-155 (155hp) 2wd with duels, a International 1466 4wd (140hp), and a Allis Chalmers 7040 (140hp) 2wd with duels. He kept several tractors so he would have another to keep him going if one should break down, and he also had 2 sets of harrows for the same reason and he also usually has 2 rigs going at the same time for speedier planting. He pulls his 8 row corn planter with a Allis Chalmers 200 (100hp), which is probably alittle overkill, but it gets the job done just fine. I'd never try to rely on just one tractor to run the whole farm because you are going to have break downs which can cost you sometimes days. Like somebody else has pointed out, the big ones over 100hp are cheaper than the smaller ones, so you might just as well pick up one thats going to be plenty big enough to do the job. Big tractors do the same thing smaller ones do, but at a much faster pace which is very important if you live in an area with a short going season. Right now in my area, most of the farms are still trying to get planted, and our growing season is only about 100 days, and it has rained almost steady this last week which has turned everybodys fields into mud pits so nobody is able to plant anything until it dries out, which is going to take a few days, thats alot of time lost!. the vermont growing season is about all done around Halloween in October, and most farmers have yet to plant their corn.

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kyhayman

06-04-2004 19:24:07




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
If you are going to conventional till very many acres you'll need something in the 110 hp range to make much time with a plow and disc. If you are going no til 80 hp or so is fine. I farm 300 acres of my own and help my dad with his 200 plus custom work. We are 100% notil and 100% hay, cattle, and horses. I've got 3 Fords a 7600, 7610 low profilem, and a 7710 series I C/H/A. Dad has a 5600, 7600, and 7610 series II C/H/A. I've worked for 20 years to put together a set of triplets.

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dhermesc

06-04-2004 11:22:36




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
I'd say you'd be fine with any 70-80 hp tractor as long as it was in good running condition. Last thing you want is to take a day off work to finish planting and spend it on the turnrow trying to get it to run. I'm partial to 856 -866 - 886 IHs. My brother in law was farming about 600 acres with a pair of old Case 970s up until a year ago. He added almost 500 acres to that and bought a "new" 7120. As he put it the farm has never contributed a dime to his income - anything its ever made has been rolled back into it.

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Howard

06-04-2004 10:56:04




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
I farm 100 acres and have a Oliver 1750, case 870, Allis Chalmers 190xt, International 706, Ford 6000, and 2 Ford 4000, 1050 Minneapolis Moline Plus all my antique tractors.
When I hook on to a piece of equipment it stays hooked on that tractor.



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John (C-IL)

06-04-2004 10:08:53




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
I farm 120 tillable acres with an IH 1066. 4020s are too expensive here, even the junkers are in the $9000 area. In addition I have a D17IV Allis, and a 4006D Duetz. I don't count the antiques, but some of them pull their weight on the farm as wagon, mower and auger tractors.



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ShepFL

06-04-2004 08:19:00




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
Can't speak to newer stuff but I would consider an Oliver 1750 or a handier rig Oliver 150. I would guess about a 60-80 hp rig to make your time as efficient as possible - several available.



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Doh! meant 1650 not 150

06-04-2004 08:20:21




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 Re: Re: Weekend Farming in reply to ShepFL, 06-04-2004 08:19:00  
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Mike

06-04-2004 07:55:29




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 Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Bill Pa, 06-04-2004 07:11:05  
I would suggest a JD 4020 Diesel. That is about as cheap and reliable power as you can get.



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Michael

06-04-2004 12:14:23




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 Re: Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Mike, 06-04-2004 07:55:29  
Couldn't afford one so I bought an IH 806d instead. Great tractor. For the price, I can put up with the finicky shifting.



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Coloken

06-04-2004 09:40:52




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 Re: Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Mike, 06-04-2004 07:55:29  
All though I never owned one, I second the JD 4020. Every body every where has/had one. About 7000 for a good on here in Colo. Around here, the larger, 90HP, tractors sell cheaper than the 40HP or the compacts.



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Old Time Farmer

06-04-2004 13:28:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Coloken, 06-04-2004 09:40:52  
I'd second that JD 4020, but it's tough to recommend a tractor without knowing what other equipment you have. You could farm with a smaller tractor depending on your equipment, but a 4020 Diesel is an excellent choice for "one tractor."



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BrokenFences

06-04-2004 19:04:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Weekend Farming in reply to Old Time Farmer, 06-04-2004 13:28:59  
Slightly off the subject, as it relates to the big Farmalls, what is a T/A, and why are they so problematic? All the ads I see for them reference the condition of the T/A, and it has a major impact on the selling price.



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RN

06-04-2004 20:04:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Weekend Farming in reply to BrokenFences, 06-04-2004 19:04:25  
TA = Torque Amplifier. Low speed/high torque option. Early ones low range was freewheeling- no retard going downhill. Sensetive to linkage adjustment, abuse-slow pull back/release of lever. If low range is out can continue working for years as straight/hi range only. Selling price reflects added repair costs to fix. Kelly C had some postings on his IHC400 repair- cost hime about $400 for rebuilt unit that he installed himself over winter? My IHC350Ds still works good. RN.

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