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JohnDeereBMan

05-18-2004 22:11:59




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What is the most you have ever seen a tractor used. I remember a buddy that read an article about a guy that did 700 some acres with a wc allis in the 40's. There was also someone claiming that a 5510 jd could pull a 12 row planter on the red power forum. I figure there has to be some interesting stories




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Ben in KY

05-20-2004 09:38:02




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
I grew up using a 7HP 2 wheeled gas mule to do about 5 acres of assorted vegetable crops. Ever plow 5 acres with a single gang 12 inch plow ? Takes a while.... The disking and cultivating were much faster.



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Just Right

05-21-2004 10:21:33




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 Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to Ben in KY, 05-20-2004 09:38:02  
Dad purchased a new AC B in 1949. We farmed over 100 acres on three farms which were about 3 miles apart. It did everything from pulling 2-12 oliver trailer plow, 8 foot disc, 8' drags, planters, etc. Also, ran a drive belt on corn cutter. We about wore it out. Last I knew the third owner was still using it. Toughest tractor I've ever been around. Engine worked best a full throttle all the time. It did not like idle speed needed for pulling wagon and hay loader. It was replaced with a Ford 3000 that is also a very good tractor.
It has done a ton of work and is still being used every day around the farm. The handiest tractor I've owned. Inherited it from Dad.

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John

05-20-2004 04:14:30




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
As the old saying goes---"We`ve done so much with so little for so long, that now we can do anything with nothing".



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redrock

05-19-2004 20:25:29




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
I would work 400 acres of summerfallow three times a summer with a Jonh Deere D' pulling 12' of sweeps and a 12'rod weeder in a tandem hich. But hey what's time to a 14 year old kid.



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Robert in Al.

05-19-2004 15:26:21




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
I've talked to guy who farmed 400 acres of corn with two wd 45's.

My grandpa says that he and his six brothers plowed, disked, planted and cultivated 100 acres of cotton, in the 50's with one farmall cub. He said the tractor was run day and night and was only turned off to refuel. After 5 years of that, they added a "big" tractor. An allis "RC".



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Bill(Wis)

05-19-2004 12:35:24




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
I witnessed the complete opposite one fall. We were chopping corn. This complete idiot neighbor planted Leeming fodder corn on newly broken ground. It was close to twenty feet tall at harvest time. We used a Massey Harris 44 running full throttle in neutral to power the chopper. We used a John Deere B with a creeper gear to pull the MH 44 and chopper. We drove along beside with another tractor and wagon and we had another tractor on the blower.

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JohnDeereBMan

05-19-2004 11:20:35




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
Yeah, my car is mobile now. I got the transmission pan and oil pan at a discount. All the parts i needed to fix the car cost me $130. Its a project to fix it though. The guy that i got the parts from offered to sell me a 96 Dodge Dakota Extended cab 4wd that is extremely clean for about the price of the car, so i think i am going to sell the cavalier. Hopefully that will avoid rocks in the field! lol

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RAB

05-19-2004 23:57:34




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 Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-19-2004 11:20:35  
No.... You will just go looking for bigger rocks!!
Have fun.
Regards, RAB



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Larry806

05-19-2004 07:09:44




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
In the spring 1976 I went over 507 acres with a 51 JD A I had a Alice Junkers 190XT that was down ( as it ALWAYS was) I worked 3 days & 2 night's than slept one night for 2 weeks straight



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Rauville

05-19-2004 05:31:27




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
My Grandfather and Uncle took care of their 400+ acre smallgrain farm with a 8N and Jubilee Ford. They did the plowing and planting and hired the harvesting done. When they finally decided to update to JD, their first tractor was a 1010.



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buickanddeere

05-19-2004 05:00:53




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
The 5510 could bring the 12 row down the road to the field. Maybe even drop the seed on the soil surface as long as the planter wasn't lowered and the 5510 had MFWD. What are they serving in these small town coffee shops to make people hallucinate and tell these B.S. stories



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dhermesc

05-19-2004 12:07:05




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 Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to buickanddeere, 05-19-2004 05:00:53  
75 hp to pull a 12 row? Our 886 (with duals) that was turned up to 95hp had all it could handle pulling an 800 6 row planter. But we also put down dry ferilizer and liquid chemicals with it too.

Before that we would cover thousands of acres a year with a 656 and a 56 6 row plate planter.

Used to put up well over a 1500 acres of hay a year with just an H and a 240 doing all the mowing and a 656 baling with a 440 baler. 90% of that hay was picked up by hand and stacked on two 2 ton trucks and hauled to various barns and restacked by hand (no electricity). Winter of '83 the cattle herd was sold and the same hay was stacked (by hand) in cattle semis for their return trips to Tennessee and North Dakota. Carrying hay bales the length of a trailer while bent over (5' possum trailers usually still full of frozen cow XXXX) was one job that really sucked. Could get about 600 bales per trailer.

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old hay hand

05-19-2004 20:43:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to dhermesc, 05-19-2004 12:07:05  
i haave a hard time with the 1500 acres of hay..if memory serves me correctly, when i was younger working for a custom baler we could bale about 20 acres a day. 1500 acres would be continuous baling for 75 days(not allowing for a second or third cutting) stubble clover would make about 100 bales per acre..that would be 150,000 bales of hay per cutting. alfalfa around here makes 60 bales per acre. that translates into 90,000 bales the first time around..you ain't pulling our legs just a little bit are ya??

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Shane

05-20-2004 05:57:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to old hay hand, 05-19-2004 20:43:47  
Depending on how you count it we do either 450 acres of hay a year or 1350 (450 acres x 3 cuttings). I just always assume when you are talking hay you count the actual acres not the acres added together per cutting. Unless you have some serious amounts of equipment, like 3 mowers, balers, etc. I can't see how you could put up 1500 acres each cutting.



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Allan

05-20-2004 04:17:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to old hay hand, 05-19-2004 20:43:47  
OHH,

I think I know what he is trying to say.

Remember how at the end of the day, that 20 acres felt like 200? :>)

Allan



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dhermesc

05-20-2004 05:55:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to Allan, 05-20-2004 04:17:25  
20 acres of hay a day? What where you using a worn out 9N - horses? Union shop hours only? Basicly you only covered 2 acres (or less) an hour?



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old hay hand

05-20-2004 19:35:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to dhermesc, 05-20-2004 05:55:41  
nope, actually the guy had a wd45 and a new holland haybine..9 foot head as best as i can remember. he baled with a 77 oliver and used a new holland hay baler. i think it was a 265 hayliner or something like that.30 years ago was a long time..1.25 an hour was alot of money to me back then. now i don't think i would do it for 20.00 an hour!!!!



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dhermesc

05-20-2004 05:58:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to dhermesc, 05-20-2004 05:55:41  
I should add we where putting up only about 80 acres of alfalfa, the rest was brome and bluestem - not near the yield of good alfalfa.



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Shane

05-20-2004 06:05:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a litt in reply to dhermesc, 05-20-2004 05:58:44  
1500 acres divided by the average of about 30 days for regrowth means 50 acres a day to keep up. That is 30 days of perfect weather. Now we use a 12' discbine behind a 180 horse tractor and 50 acres a day is a good day.

Does the brome and bluestem regrow or is that a one time deal a year? This may help some of us make sense of 1500 acres a year.



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dhermesc

05-20-2004 06:37:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doing alot with a in reply to Shane, 05-20-2004 06:05:54  
One cutting a year - bluestem cutting starts in mid to late July through August (some times into Sept) - brome is cut in June (late) and most of July. One other thing to throw in - 9 sons and my dad where doing this work in addition to our row crop. I started rolling bales at age 5 and running a rake at age 7, and once I was big enough to throw bales I didn't see much tractor seat time as I was the 8th of the 9.

Granted there is some streatch in there somewhere - 81 or 82 a pull type swather was bought, never was to impressed by it. To properly cure the hay it still needed to rolled and usually two swaths made into one. The 440 baler moved at 6 to 7 MPH. Rake - rakes moved at what ever speed the field would bear. The H pulled a 9' sickle bar mower and the 240 pulled a 7' - both balanced head mowers. Started each season with new ledger plates and new sections in all sickles (average two a day per mower). We ran 7 days a week 14-16 hours a day - half day Sunday.

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Allan

05-19-2004 05:13:53




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 Re: Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to buickanddeere, 05-19-2004 05:00:53  
B&D,

And, it would probably take that WC all season just to drive across the 700 acres. :>)

Allan



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Loren-MN

05-19-2004 04:56:52




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
Worked for a farmer in the mid-70's planting corn with a 6 row JD planter with liquid fertilizer behind an International/Farmall 504. Quite a load, but it worked.



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paul

05-18-2004 23:18:02




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
Friend uses a 8-30 JD 7000 planter with his 4020 for corn. Then he hooks on the modified 7-30 JD 7100 behind & plants beans - 15 rows at 15 inches.

--->Paul



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RAB

05-18-2004 23:03:39




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 Re: Doing alot with a little in reply to JohnDeereBMan, 05-18-2004 22:11:59  
I was wonderin' if you did a lot with the little left of your sump pans. Are you mobille again or still hitching lifts?
Regards, RAB



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