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Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why?

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Pajamafied John

05-16-2004 12:49:54




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My curiosity is killing me. I have read a lot of people that say to stay away from the J.D. 1010. Can anyone tell me why? I am not getting ready to buy one or anything (got as many tractors as my marriage will allow)But I am wondering what problems these tractors are known for.




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Hunter

05-17-2004 05:37:18




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 Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to Pajamafied John, 05-16-2004 12:49:54  
I had 1 for several years and would still have it if I had'nt neede a bigger tractor. Yes I did overhaul it but it was a good tractor and still is, sold it to the wifes friend and her husband.



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jdemaris

05-16-2004 19:44:28




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 Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to Pajamafied John, 05-16-2004 12:49:54  
I hear lots of gripes and moans about the 1010s and 2010s. I own two 1010s and like them very much. One of the other posters mentioned a few things I don't agree with. One, he called them a mid-50s tractor. My 1010 crawler is the first year made and it's a 1960. I believe they made them until 1965 or 66. Also mentioned was the 1010 using 430 running gear. Not true, at least with the crawlers. Hydraulic reverser, steering clutch housings, and trans. case are all different from the 430. In fact, I think the 1010 was the first Deere that used the hydraulic reverser. 430 had a wet-clutched, non-hydraulic mechancially engaged reverser. 1010s did not and do not have bad engines. Parts are expensive though. As far as the leaking or gasket-shifting problems caused from the sleeve-deck unit - I've never seen it happen. I worked for three Deere dealerships and was working on 1010s and 2010s since they were almost new. One thing I DO see as a drawback is - the 1010 and 2010 series engines never benefitting from updates and/or improvements like the later engine series did. 1010s, 2010s, 350s, 450s, 1020s, etc. all had single o-rings on the sleeve bottoms and it was not the best protection for keeping engine oil and coolant separated. Deere revised the sleeves for everything BUT the 1010s and 2010s to three o-rings. A note about the 2010s. In my experience, the engines were not too bad. I've seen many make the 10,000 hour mark if well cared for. They certainly were crude by today's standards, but could be made to last, and started pretty good if the glow-plugs worked, the hand-primer was intact, and the injection-pump was set right. The 2010 crawler had one of the best hydraulic-clutched transmissions Deere ever made, i.e. the HL-R. Was carried over to the 450s, just like the 1010s reverser was carried over to the 350s. But, as to the rest of the 2010s - be them ag. or industrial - it always seemed to me that they were made of left over parts. What a mess!

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Kevin crawford

05-24-2005 10:58:06




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 Re: Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to jdemaris, 05-16-2004 19:44:28  
Where can you get the sleeve kits that you mentioned.
My 1010 has been setting around and the sleves are scored up.



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rlss

05-06-2005 11:52:35




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 Re: Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to jdemaris, 05-16-2004 19:44:28  
I have a J.D. 1010.The clutch wouldn"t disengage and I had a new clutch installed.The tractor sits outside , and unless I run it every week or so , the clutch won"t disengage.It is stuck now.I tried to free it up by starting it in gear and also tried to push down a tree to free up the clutch , to no avail. Any ideas to free it up and prevent it from happening again would be greatly appreciated. Thank You , Ralph

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nhboyd

05-16-2004 16:46:12




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 Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to Pajamafied John, 05-16-2004 12:49:54  
my dad had two 1010 at one time. the first one got so we couldn't get it started. i overhauled it we estimated it had 8000 hours. the other one was bought in 1966 not much has been done with it. it does all the small chores.



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T213R

05-16-2004 15:15:03




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 Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to Pajamafied John, 05-16-2004 12:49:54  
It's that deck and sleeve engine design mostly. Buying non-John Deere rebuild kits for it is impossible, and the "deck" tends to "warp" somewhat, causing no end of problems getting the gaskets involved to seal properly. Also, these were Dubuque tractors. The 1010 is very nearly a 430 with a 4cyl engine, so---the basic tractor isn't all that bad. The "new generation style sheet metal is what makes the 1010 seem dissimilar to a 430 for example, NOT the basic engineering. The 2010 on the other hand is an entirely NEW design, not based on ANYTHING previously built. The MAJORITY of the engineering time spent on the "new" 10 series went into the 3010 and 4010, with the 5010 taking an extra two years and the Dubuque tractors recieving less attention than they really required. A 2010 iis therefore a lot like some other brands of tractors which were rushed prematurely into production withoput benifit of adequate engineering developement. The really serious complaints against the 1010 are mostly due to the crummy engine design. The basic chassis and trannsmission being so close to the well developed and successsful M/40/420/430 chassis shouldn't have many problems. If you can take the risk of having an unreliable (potentially anyway) engine in your 1010, one that is in good working order shouldn't be all that bad (for a mid 1950's tractor).

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jason fabian

05-16-2004 13:26:59




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 Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to Pajamafied John, 05-16-2004 12:49:54  
I dont know about the 1010. I have one and couldnt be happier. NOW the 2010 Diesel, thats a different story. Those motors are one of the worst motors ever built by deere, if not the worst. my dad rebuilt one 5-6 times over a year or two when he was a kid, my granpa told him to off that SOB before he blew it up. LOL.
my 00.02
jason



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Bob

05-16-2004 14:40:19




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 Re: Re: Bad reputaion of J.D. 1010. Why? in reply to jason fabian, 05-16-2004 13:26:59  
My neighbor uses a 2010 diesel to mow, rake and bale a couple of thousand bales of hay each year. He has done this for years, and outside of a clutch I put in for him several years ago because he did not know you were supposed to grease the throwout bearing, repairs have been minimal.

While these tractors were not the best Deere ever produced, I don't believe they deserve the complete bad rap they get. Like any machine, a little common sense and care goes a long way to getting good service out of them.

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