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What is synthetic oil made from?

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Alberta Mike

04-05-2004 03:43:51




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This is something that I could probably find out from an internet search, but like most things I wonder about, the responses here are quick and accurate (usually). What is 100% synthetic oil made from and what process is used to make it?




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Dave in Ga.

04-05-2004 19:49:51




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 Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Alberta Mike, 04-05-2004 03:43:51  
One thing I do know is it will not work for 2 cycle oil. Afew years back we had a tornado take down some trees near my house and blocked the road and landed on power lines. I was clearing the way for the power company when I ran out of mixed fuel. I had plenty of gas but no more 2 cycle oil. My neighbor had some synhetic motor oil and we mixed that up. The saw would not run on it. I dont mean sputter and miss but absolutly no fire. Got some mix gas from the power company truck on the scene and it fired right up. Tried the syn mix later just to see if that was the problem and again no run. The funny part is the power company sent out new trucks that had not been fully outfitted, they had lots of fuel but no saws or axes. Together we made a good team!

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Slick

04-05-2004 14:59:02




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 Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Alberta Mike, 04-05-2004 03:43:51  
Synthetic fluids consist of polyalphaolefin (PAO), esters and other additives. The raw material used is natural gas which is first liquefied, then by using catalysts, is chemically restructured into oligomers before being refined. After refining, the stock is blended with diesters to achieve seal compatibility (prevent seal swelling) and increase additive solubility, enabling additives to go into solution in the fluid. This process results in a fluid which is very pure, has extended low temperature performance, and high temperature stability. The cost of synthetic lubricants is about four times greater than the cost of conventional hydraulic oil. This is partly because, in comparison to crude oil, natural gas supplies are relatively limited. In addition, synthetic oils, as opposed to being refined, are manufactured through a chemical process in a chemical plant. Synthetic fluids should be thought of as a chemical with uniform and smooth molecular structures. As a result friction between molecules is reduced, reducing pressure drop and heat generation as the fluid flows through the system.Offsetting their significantly higher cost are many benefits. Oxidation resistance is outstanding. Synthetics can handle operating of temperatures of 300¢ªF and higher without breaking down like conventional oils. For that matter, most of the other fluids don¡¯t handle high temperatures very well either. The high flash point of synthetics aids in their resistance to evaporative loss and oxidation, again, resulting in greater resistance to sludge formation.Since synthetic fluids don¡¯t break down at high temperatures, the formation of sludge is greatly reduced. The uniform molecular structure of synthetics provides a shear stable fluid with a high viscosity index making synthetics an excellent choice for use in machines that encounter a very wide range of temperatures. The same fluid that will survive in an arctic application will easily cope with hot desert conditions. This may allow a reduction in the number of fluids that need to be inventoried and managed. Synthetic fluids possess exceptional lubricity, film strength, corrosion protection, and anti-wear qualities. As a result, pumps and motors do not have to be derated when used with synthetic fluids. Synthetics tend to exhibit excellent demulsibility, easily separating large amounts of water from the fluid.Because synthetic fluids are so resistant to breakdown from thermal degradation, oxidation, sludge formation, and shear, systems stay cleaner and the fluid lasts longer, extending the service life of the fluid.

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MikeH-Tx

04-05-2004 19:58:50




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 Re: Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Slick, 04-05-2004 14:59:02  
Which oligomers are created as a result of the catalytic process? Are any polyalphaolefin or esters left intact, or are they all converted? Which diesters are used?

Come on man, we need a complete answer here, not just the Cliff notes version...



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Dave_Id

04-05-2004 10:30:46




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 Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Alberta Mike, 04-05-2004 03:43:51  
It comes from Synthetic Crude Oil... sorry, couldn't help myself.



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Alberta Mike

04-05-2004 14:32:06




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 Re: Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Dave_Id, 04-05-2004 10:30:46  
Ah, the old chicken and egg thing right? Shoulda known.



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Ron in AR

04-05-2004 08:04:27




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 Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Alberta Mike, 04-05-2004 03:43:51  
Want to read a real eye opener??!! Go to this site and read what it says about so-called synthetic oils. Tho I am speaking for myself here, I really think that for the most part, many people choose "synthetic" oils because they think they are doing something good for the enviroment. The word itself seems to imply that you are not using something made from crude oil. Think again. Might make you reconsider how much you are willing to pay for this "new?" tech.

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jstpa

04-05-2004 04:21:50




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 Re: What is synthetic oil made from? in reply to Alberta Mike, 04-05-2004 03:43:51  
Mike,
I read an article one time about Mobil 1. If I remember correctly they said it is made from a gas that is a byproduct of regular oil. It has been a year or 2 since I read that article, But I'm pretty sure thats what it said it starts out as.
jstpa



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