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plow/harrow vs. rototiller

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JE (NH)

04-01-2004 07:24:11




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Want to rip and till some turf up to do some nursery type planting. Have a two bottom plow but no harrows. Would you recommend getting a disc harrow or another type? Or would you bite the bullet and get a 3 pt hitch rototiller?
It's not a huge parcel of land- acre or two.
Thanks for any good advice.




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Butcher

04-02-2004 17:09:14




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 Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-01-2004 07:24:11  
Since you are planting only deciduous shrubs you could easially get buy with whatever you have at hand. Plow, disc, and then level your planting bed with something. Years ago we used to use a 14 foot piece of I beam to level and it worked as good as anything. I dont know how you plan to dig your shrubs (bare root or potted-B&B) but I could post pics of a nice undercutter for bare rooting in the fall or spring. If you want to make your own.

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Stan TN

04-01-2004 22:24:06




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 Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-01-2004 07:24:11  
I'd look around for an old spike harrow, a couple of sections sell for around $40 here.



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Butcher

04-01-2004 18:46:21




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 Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-01-2004 07:24:11  
What are you planning on planting for nursey stock? Is it for resale or just to have some trees around. I am in the nusery business and take care of most of the field work. Alot of your ground prep has to do with what you are planting and what you intend to do with it.



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JE (NH)

04-02-2004 15:58:22




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 Re: Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to Butcher, 04-01-2004 18:46:21  
Planning on planting easy Zone 3 + 4 shrubs for resale. Viburnum, Syringa, Cornus, Myrica, etc. and a few specialty plants. At this point it's more a hobby than anything. I work at a nursery and they have a nice Kuhn rototiller they use for prepping but I'd love to do it without investing big bucks.



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Robert in W. Mi

04-02-2004 16:59:20




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 Re: Re: Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-02-2004 15:58:22  
If you work there, rent the tiller from them!! The fact that you work there, should help you get it over to your place. :>) It sure wouldn't take long to do a couple acres!!

Robert



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JE

04-03-2004 06:30:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to Robert in W. Mi, 04-02-2004 16:59:20  

Yeah, I know. I just like to choose my favors wisely.



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Robert in W. Mi

04-01-2004 16:08:54




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 Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-01-2004 07:24:11  
I do this all the time. Hire someone with a rotavator to come in, and tell them "what you want it to look like" when there done. "If" they know what they are doing, it will be ready to plant when they leave. No plowing, leveling or anything else will be needed.

In extreme cases, i have seen fields that i've had to go over two times, one week apart. Also, depending on what it looks like to start with, you may need to brush hog it before rotavateing?

Robert

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

04-01-2004 12:12:35




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 Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-01-2004 07:24:11  
If you only have an acre or two, and this is going to be a onetime operation, as opposed to every year, I'd plow it, then hire somenone with a tiller or disk and harrow to finish it.



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txblu

04-01-2004 07:39:35




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 Re: plow/harrow vs. rototiller in reply to JE (NH), 04-01-2004 07:24:11  
You solved my first objection to tillage and that is the initial ground breakage. Plow it and then till it.

Tillage requires slow ground speed so that the tiller has time to mulch the soil. Slow means creep. Think about how fast you walk by/behind your garden tiller. Slow slow slow.

A 4 speed transmission on a '60's vintage tractor won't cut it.

All said, you should be much happier with the pulverization of soil with the tillage process.

I am told that you had better get gauge wheels with your tiller or you won't be happy with it in controlling depth for a nice smooth finish.

txblu

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