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4630 John Deere

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Jody Bugaiski

03-26-2004 19:06:33




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I am looking to buy an older four wheele drive tractor, my questions is why do people talk down the hydraulic four wheelers like the 4630? Are these tracors good machines for the money? Also, what are some other reasonable priced older four wheelers from that era? I would like to stay around $15000 for 150 horses if possible. I like the 4-150 Whites but I am not to sure about the articulated tractors (never owned one).

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Jody Bugaiski in Michigan

03-27-2004 17:48:39




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 Re: 4630 John Deere in reply to Jody Bugaiski, 03-26-2004 19:06:33  
Thanks everyone for the input on the 4630, please keep the advice coming. Also, what size discovator would that 4630 pull? One last question kind off the subject, anyone ever put up direct cut haylage using a vacuum pump to pull the air out of the sillage pile (like the alpha ag system)?



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Loren-Minnesota

03-26-2004 22:26:02




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 Re: 4630 John Deere in reply to Jody Bugaiski, 03-26-2004 19:06:33  
My brother-in-law Russ and I worked for several years for a farmer northeast of Waterville, Mn (in the hills if you have ever been there) part-time nights during planting and harvest season, back in the early to mid 70's. The equipment was for the most part run 24 hours a day. In the fall, Russ drove a 4320 with 5-18 plow. I drove a 4620 with hydraulic front assist and a 6-18 plow. There were many hills he couldn't pull up and I could. He'd take the low road and I'd take the high. This became more apparent if we were running late and started to get a little snow. He couldn't do anything, and I could keep going. Throw the switch for the front assist in light snow and it would stop dead in it's tracks. Turn it on and I would go again. And I never had a problem with hydraulic over heat. Just my 2 cents.
Loren

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gene

03-26-2004 21:03:39




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 Re: 4630 John Deere in reply to Jody Bugaiski, 03-26-2004 19:06:33  
other thing about the older hydra fwd is that when they would get hot they would shut off. i had a 4630 an we didnt have alot of problems with ours but if you where to turn them up at all it would start to cause problems. the 404 which is what they had is the same engine that was went from the 4030 to the 4630. an when they would be turned up they had a problem with breaking rod caps or rods. other thing about the 4630 is that they love to drink the fuel. mine would burn 14 gallons a hour while in the field. it had the power but boy it drink it to make it. just from what i know johndeeregene

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JMS/MN

03-26-2004 20:26:09




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 Re: 4630 John Deere in reply to Jody Bugaiski, 03-26-2004 19:06:33  
The 30 series used a hydraulic drive on the front end, and it is not built as well as the MFWD. Hydraulics create heat, leak, etc. while the mechanical systems stand up better. Older 4wd tractors like Steiger and Versatile are pretty cheap power, especially dependable if you find ones with the Cummins 855. 4-150 uses 3208 Cat engine- some call them throwaways- easier to replace than fix. 4-210 is built much heavier. Slower running engines stand up better than the high speed like 3208. Cummins are great for torque. Stay with the simpler features on old ones- they get spendy to fix when they break down, and you can't afford to put much into an old horse. Basic tough pullers just need a solid engine, simple tranny and basic hydraulics. Articulated have fewer problems than Case with the crab, 4-way steering.

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