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Tom in Texas

03-11-2004 08:13:37

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I have an 850 Ford tractor. The front tires that came with the it are auto tires. The tractor is very hard to steer in tight spots. Will it be easier to drive with regular tractor tires? Or, does it really make any difference?

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Dave

03-11-2004 14:09:02

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Re: Front tires in reply to Tom in Texas, 03-11-2004 08:13:37

At one time I was using a 641 with a loader and the power steering wasn't working. We had fluid put in the front tires and that helped a lot. Don't remember what the front tires were but they were tractor tires.

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Different Tom

03-11-2004 12:12:55

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Re: Front tires in reply to Tom in Texas, 03-11-2004 08:13:37

Get some new 3-rib tractor tires of the proper size and be done with it.

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Ben in KY

03-11-2004 10:23:23

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Re: Front tires in reply to Tom in Texas, 03-11-2004 08:13:37

3 rib tires will steer better. The auto type tires just slide over the ground with no bite. Been there done that. Truck tires work well on the front of your tractor when brushing out thorny areas. The steel belts work pretty good at keeping down thorn punctures.

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Stan(PA)

03-11-2004 09:43:43

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Re: Front tires in reply to Tom in Texas, 03-11-2004 08:13:37

I don't think the tires are the problem. Check front end parts and toe in. The toe in being off can really affect steering.....Stan

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Jim.UT

03-11-2004 09:41:24

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Re: Front tires in reply to Tom in Texas, 03-11-2004 08:13:37

My 850 has 3 rib tractor tires and it doesn't seem too bad....but maybe I'm just used to it. By any chance you don't have a front end loader on that tractor do you? If you do, that will increase steering effort needed by a factor of at least 5. I've heard of people putting auto tires on loader tractors to help the steering for the reasons listed below by Mark, but I don't have any experience with that.

If tractor tires don't improve the steering enough to satisfy you, you have a couple of options, one cheap and the other expensive. The cheap remedy is a necker knob. You'll have to learn to drive with your thumbs outside the rim of the wheel to avoid breaking a thumb when the front wheel hits a big rock or falls in a hole. The expensive fix is to add power steering. Check the link below, but get ready for sticker shock. The really good things cost what they're worth!

Jackson Power Steering

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Mark

03-11-2004 09:09:34

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Re: Front tires in reply to Tom in Texas, 03-11-2004 08:13:37

Resistance is lbs/sq in. Seems to me the fatter the tire (tread) the more area supports the weight so the lower the weight per unit area and easier steering.

With that said, I use tractor tires and they aren't too bad. Maybe the axiom above is/can be altered by the fact that tractor tires have the high center rib and it may turn easier without regard for area because it is narrow across and that may turn better.

Course you always want to be rolling which helps a bunch.

Mark

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dhermesc

03-11-2004 12:39:58

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Re: Re: Front tires in reply to Mark, 03-11-2004 09:09:34

"Resistance is lbs/sq in. Seems to me the fatter the tire (tread) the more area supports the weight so the lower the weight per unit area and easier steering."

If that where the case why do drag racers use wide tires for increased traction?

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Mark

03-12-2004 05:43:52

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Re: Re: Re: Front tires in reply to dhermesc, 03-11-2004 12:39:58

Cause they're trying to grip, not roll and they get em sticky before they punch it.

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HavinFunin MO

03-11-2004 15:40:59

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Re: Re: Re: Front tires in reply to dhermesc, 03-11-2004 12:39:58

In that example the determining calculation is the holding power of the rubber compound on the surface. I.E. a piece of velcro with just a little attached will pull away easier than one with a larger portion attached.
This theory has to be combined with the limits of a tire that can stay together at 300 mph.

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03-11-2004 13:32:59

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Re: Re: Re: Front tires in reply to dhermesc, 03-11-2004 12:39:58

When the Drag car launches off the line the rear tires grow skinny. The tires are fat when sitting but they sure do get skinny and taller when lauched. RT

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