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Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed

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BlueLite

03-09-2004 10:49:43




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At a Ford dealer I was looking at their foreign line of tractors in the showroom.

They had a Kyoti tractor with it's bucket raised. It had a 3 cylinder diesel with 20hp rating. It had 3PH and 4WD. All for an impressive 14000$. It had the choice of the 2 transmissions,
the regular and the hydrostatic I think they called it.

I was impressed with the price and figured they cost something like 25000$.

Wish I had the cash, almost seems worthwhile
trying it.

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farmerbill

03-10-2004 16:56:31




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
I am no expert on this but I do have some knowledge about this subject. Have a neighbor who bought one on a farm sale. It was a real sharp looking late model kioti, mfwd, loader the whole deal. At about 600 hrs it spun a rod bearing and ruined the crank. After alot of checking he had no luck getting ahold of anyone that new about getting undersized bearing if he got the crank turned. We are in central illinois so last winter when I went to louisville to the farm show he gave me a sheet of paper with all kinds of information about the tractor and his contact info and he asked me to get it to someone in the kioti booth. When I got to the kioti booth I told the first rep I saw what I wanted to do and he said to just hold on a second and he would get the teritory rep for my area. The rep was from South Carolina! That is a long way from Ilinois. He did get in contact with my neighbor and he ended up buying a very expensive crank and some other parts. He doesnt complain much about the tractor just that it is hard to get any support from the company or their dealer network. You probably should check and see if there will be any dealer support if you need it down the road ten years. Good luck.

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Butcher

03-09-2004 17:51:28




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
Kyoti. How do you say that. Around here a kyoti is a mangie dog looking thing that we shoot because they are a threat to stock and wild life. If they are worth that much $$ they should raise the bounty in this area.



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ARE U KIDDING

03-09-2004 16:30:10




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
For 14k dollars I would think that you should get a larger machine, take a look at the new hollands for $14000 and for $25000 you can get a whole lot more than 20HP. WHat is a Kioti anyway?



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Montana

03-09-2004 15:04:57




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
Hey Bob: It would probably hit 25K if the Boys over at "green n' yeller" had it in their junk collection>



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chris mf 135

03-09-2004 14:04:15




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
have you priced a kubota? a buddy of mine just bought a b7910 22hp hydrostatic with a 60 inch mid mount mower for $12,225 mower was about 2000 i think a loader that size is arrond 3000 not sure. look at kubota it has one big advantage over koiti RESALE. just my two cents. carverequipment.com list kubota msrp can usually buy at 80-85 persent of that.



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jim

03-11-2004 16:25:32




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 Re: Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to chris mf 135, 03-09-2004 14:04:15  
Kioti tractors are also about 15-20% heavier than a Kubota.



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Bob

03-09-2004 12:08:00




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
Why do you think 14,000 for a 20 hp tractor is a bargin????? ????? ????? Which 20 horse should be 25,000 ???



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rhouston

03-09-2004 11:51:15




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
did you take a GOOD look at the throttle ?
My mom's looks as though it will fail at the mounting point after a thousand hours or so. I have to keep tightening it every year so it will stay where you set it. (she has 100 hrs on it)
Engine tranny seem O.K. it's the little things that don't seem quite up to spec.



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john

03-09-2004 11:21:18




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 Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to BlueLite, 03-09-2004 10:49:43  
Problem is..... is it worth $14,000

Kinda like buying a riding mower for $1000.that last 3 years
Or one that cost $3000. and last 12 years.
Which is the better deal.



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buck

03-09-2004 14:18:08




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 Re: Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to john, 03-09-2004 11:21:18  

Probably safe to say that wal mart will sell many more 1000 mowers than others sell 3000 mowers. My money goes on the 1000.



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Ron,ar

03-09-2004 13:38:42




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 Re: Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to john, 03-09-2004 11:21:18  
We had a kyoti tractor here at the job, it was a piece of junk. Looked good at first but too cheaply made. Imitation Kubota IMO. Which is the better deal? a 1000 buck mower that lasts 3 years or a 3000 buck machine that lasts 12? I spend the lesser amount (1400) on a Murray mower, get 4 years out of it. I see folks spend 6000 on a machine and in 10 years it's worn out too. I just have a new machine more often, and a warranty in the middle of the 10-12 yr time span. It's a matter of perspective. None of them last like they should.

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G. L. White

06-13-2005 00:02:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to Ron,ar, 03-09-2004 13:38:42  
If a 6K mower or garden tractor wore out in ten years, I'm willing to bet it didn't say KUBOTA on the side. We had a 17hp L-series Kubota 20 yrs ago when they cost absolutely nothing, abused it & its implements to death for four years and sold it for more than we paid for it (after the import tax drove the prices way up). We kept the little 12hp diesel G4200 with a belly mower, which cost less than 2K back then, as I recall, and have tried to kill it ever since. It now retails for about six grand.

We mowed 29 acres with it for a couple of years, and 8 rough acres ever since, often letting the biggest part get 2 feet tall before we bother with cutting it. We mow down brush and 1" maple saplings that a bush hog should really do, and gnereally beat it to death.It hauls feed and grain almost every day, and must have over 3000 hrs on it, perhaps more (no hr meter). We change oil and filters only once a year, and it has never been tarped, much less kept in a shed, and we live in VA, which has plenty of rain, snow and ice.

So far this Kubota has never seen the dealer, and the only repairs it's needed have been some new steering gear parts that my wife replaced herself, and the deck has had plates welded on it where the rain & ice have rotted thru everywhere. Oh, and two new spindles and a couple of batteries, too.

I'm buying a new Kubota L3130 next week, and its Bush Hog should extend the life of the little rusty Kubota indefinitely, but if it fell to pieces tomorrow it would still be the best money I've ever spent. And when that unkillable diesel motor finally goes, you bet I'm headed straight down to buy its $6,000 modern equivalent.

I've had a few used IH Cub Cadets and Wheel Horses over the years, too, just to have a spare when the Kubota deck belt breaks (mean job to replace), but even those, which are miles ahead of the MTD-type crud, don't hold a candle to the Kubota for toughness and, to me, just aren't worth the little money they cost.

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dhermesc

03-09-2004 15:22:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Kioti(Kyoti?) Tractors, I'm impressed in reply to Ron,ar, 03-09-2004 13:38:42  
"Which is the better deal? a 1000 buck mower that lasts 3 years or a 3000 buck machine that lasts 12?"

Spent $600 on a 2 year old MTD with a 46" deck and hydrostat 4 years ago, the only maintenance I've done is change the oil and plugs (and battery) every year. The only problem I've had is that two deck pulleys have needed replaced - and I keep about 4 acres mowed.

I know I treat cheap items with not near the care expensive items get. My 22 year old F250 gets the &**$ driven out of it and sits outside in all kinds of weather, my wife's new Mercury Grand Marquis doesn't leave the garage if its raining. I only work on the F250 if it won't start, or if I don't think its going to make it back from its next trip. The Merc leaves a drop of oil on the floor and its in the shop (under warranty) to find out what's leaking.

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