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saving tired batteries?

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mudstuck

03-03-2004 13:39:15




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how many of you use a battery minder? we have saved 3 big batteries using one. puts about one amp into them over a long period of time. then it 'floats' when the battery doesn't need a charge. i have had good results with mine.
one battery was below 8 volts and came back. it is in use now.




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Charles Tex Jr.

08-25-2004 09:44:55




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 Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to mudstuck, 03-03-2004 13:39:15  
Bah, humbug, FAQ!! I’m a skeptic, and this is why. As an experimenter, my view is that there are flaws in the non-peer-reviewed laboratory test and/or lab tests purporting to prove that Pulse Devices actually work. In my view, the reason for the misleading result is simple: These pulsers (Magnapulse, Europulse, Solargiser, Pulsemagic, Batterymind, etc, etc., ad nauseam) are simply acting as battery chargers! Yes, the pulsers are charging the batteries. I haven’t located any truly independent test or peer-review that proves that a stand-alone pulse desulfator (not running from an external power source; run from the battery itself) removed desulfation permanently, as evidenced by improved voltage and/or capacity as measured in Ampere Hours.

In my opinion, the Magna-pulse desulfytor “lab test” and reviews posted on the Internet by the manufacturer (from India, no less, where they would unlikely be enjoined by a class action lawsuit by North American consumers) is particularly misleading. FAQs out there notwithstanding.

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greenbeanman

03-04-2004 05:44:44




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 Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to mudstuck, 03-03-2004 13:39:15  
Is the battery minder you write about a trickle charger, or is it a brand of some other product that should have been capitalized to indicate that? Not being familiar with term I just don't know. Not trying to start a flood of posts about capitalization/writing, etc.

Thanks



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Jon H

03-04-2004 17:57:23




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 Re: Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to greenbeanman, 03-04-2004 05:44:44  
The batteryMINDer is a brand of combo trickle charger and desulfator sold by Northern tool co.
I have 2 of them that I move around my farm equipment(I try to use them 1 week every 2 months) during the off season to keep the batterys charged and remove any sulfation from the battery plates caused by months of non use. Much equipment like combines set unused for 10 months per year,so somthing like the battery MINDer is necessary to prevent sulfation damage to batteries. I have had very good luck bringing batteries that were badly sulfated back to near full power. As long as the sulfation is not so severe that sulfation crystals have penetrated the plate seperators and caused a shorted cell. I have some batteries 10-15 years old that still crank like new. I am in the process of rebuilding a Hough 30 payloader that was rolled over a year ago. Most of the electrolyte had drained out of the big 8D battery while it was up side down. It was left that way for a year with the plates exposed to air which causes rapid sulfation. I refilled the cells with battery electrolite and put the charger/desulfator on it for 2 weeks. I am happy to say the battery seems to have had a 100% recovery.

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Alex Latham

12-13-2004 12:49:42




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 Re: Re: Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to Jon H, 03-04-2004 17:57:23  
All automobile, truck, and farm batteries die, if not reconditioned periodically by infusion of food-grade epsoms and edta; this chemical revival method has been known for at least 20 years, yet car owners buy new batteries (lazy people) when their car batteries die (usually from overuse of car alarms and other power-draining electronics). Incidentally, there should be (but isn't) a lively market in North America for collection, reconditioning, and re-selling of revived lead acid automobile batteries.

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greenbeanman

03-05-2004 02:22:32




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 Re: Re: Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to Jon H, 03-04-2004 17:57:23  
They sound great and I have at least one battery that could benefit from such a process.

Thanks. greenbeanman



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mudstuck

03-05-2004 05:13:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to greenbeanman, 03-05-2004 02:22:32  
thats it! that is the thing i use. i've got 3 group 31 size batteries that i've saved this year. you can use light gauge wire (lamp wire works) with small battery clips and go pole to pole. my minder will let me gang up 4 batteries at once. check voltage, and keep a record as the process moves along. i saved a battery that was down to 8 volts. it has been in my truck for over a year now without any trouble. so there you have it- no capitals either mud

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Don c

03-04-2004 04:59:12




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 Re: saving tired batteries? in reply to mudstuck, 03-03-2004 13:39:15  
Have had one on a JD 60 for about 3 years, tractor doesn't get a lot of use but when needed don't have to worry about battery being down or dead. Mine is a 1 1/2 amp, one of the best things I ever bought.
Don c



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