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James, NC

02-02-2004 16:35:11




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I've got a 700 ft creek bank chocked full of old grown up briars and small saplings with some average size trees. Trouble is it's not flat enough or wide enough at some places to get a tractor in to clear any. the creek is maybe 3-6 foot wide along the length. Any economical ideas without too much back breaking ways to clear this off? You guys have been a great help in the past. Would appreciate any info.
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Dave2N

02-03-2004 15:12:25




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
Wondering what you want to do with it after it's cleared. Here in upstate NY, clearing the banks just allows more creek bank erosion. Those trees and briars help hold the bank together.



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John

02-03-2004 06:16:20




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
GOATS
They love trees and briares but will pass over grass. Hence no erosion from heavy equipt. tearing up the ground next to a creek.



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Jack

02-03-2004 05:27:52




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
The smartest thing, would probably be to leave it as it is. You might be suprised at how greatful your children, grandchildred, great-grandchildren etc, would be that you had a little foresight as to consider them. It probably would prove even more profitable to market it as recreational land,than mess it up for farming. There just isn't that much profit in farming.
The days of fanatical farmers blowing aside all of what is here, because they are worried about what there arcaic farming neighbors will say are gone.
As farmers it does us a lot more good to think a little more about our image, if we expect to get others to listen to us about more important things.

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John A

02-02-2004 20:41:25




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
James, Here in Texas we have the right to capture the water and have the right to it. We DON'T ask the government Dittely Squat. For if they get on your place, they make it a point to look for little endangered critters, plants, and such! Don't want areneed that headache. As before, hire a contractor, go rent, beg/borrow or whatever .....A skidsteer loader w/ a shredder attachment. shred off the briars, plant a cover crop. In spring spray regrowth with Crossbow, and crop oil in water. There isn't much else growing under it except weeds.
Good Luck,
John A.

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Mike

02-03-2004 12:44:44




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 Re: Re: Land Clearing in reply to John A, 02-02-2004 20:41:25  
Federal overrides State law,I think with a little checking,you will find you are no longer legally entitled to "capture water". Just a little friendly advise unless you can handle a $250,000 fine.



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Ted

02-02-2004 19:30:12




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
What are you going to do with it once it is cleaned up? Is it hurting anything?



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wolfy

02-02-2004 19:22:13




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
Sheep



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Hermit

02-02-2004 18:38:47




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
Also, better check to see if some governmental unit has declared that property "Wetlands" without your knowledge. That's about 2000 more regulations and restrictions you have to worry about.



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old

02-02-2004 16:55:27




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
I agree with Mike, check with DNR dept of natural resourse or your conservation dept. In my state you own the land but not the water so if you do something that hurts the water its BIG BIG fines. You may even need permits to do what you want, but on a plus side they also may help with cost shareing and or advice



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DNR???

02-03-2004 12:11:53




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 Re: Re: Land Clearing in reply to old, 02-02-2004 16:55:27  
DNR dept of natural resourse???
I thought it stood for Damn Near Retarded.



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DNR

02-03-2004 14:17:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Land Clearing in reply to DNR???, 02-03-2004 12:11:53  
Damn Near Retarded is what your kids end up if they drink the water!!!!



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Dave_Id

02-02-2004 16:45:50




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
Hire an excavator... get a quote from the guy.. he'll pull the stuff out like carrots, and stack the stuff on piles for burning. I had about 7 acres done that was full of jackpine. I was very pleased. I had lot's of big stumps to pull too, he made short work of them also...



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Mike

02-02-2004 16:42:01




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 Re: Land Clearing in reply to James, NC, 02-02-2004 16:35:11  
Before you even start,check with your co.agent, or soil district. Clearing in or around a stream or creek now violates about 2000 federal and state laws. If you get caught,you are responsible for returning it to its original condition,plus BIG MONEY in fines.



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