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Jason

01-24-2004 14:56:14




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I see that Jim in NC says that all powered devices run on smoke and folks love it.

And, I pull your leg just as much by telling you that a battery gets lighter as it discharges and folks say "Don`t be silly" and "Doesn`t understand the process".

Sad...

Ok, how`s this... Did you know that if you check your tire`s air pressure while that tire is supporting weight that you will get an inaccurate reading?

You all know that an empty oxygen cylinder weighs less than a filled cylinder, but, did you know you can make it weigh even less if you pressurize it to the max with helium?

Or, would it weigh less if you pulled a vacuum in it?

Life is too short to take anything to seriously.

Did you know that even the heaviest vehicle will produce only the weight per square inch on the ground as there is air pressure inside the tire?

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Larry NE IL

01-25-2004 09:41:58




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 Re: Electricity / Gossip / Battery Weight in reply to Jason, 01-24-2004 14:56:14  
Yeah, and I've always wondered....if you weigh a 5 gal bucket of water, then put a live 5 lb fish in it and he's swimming around, does the bucket of water weigh 5 lbs more??? LOL Larry



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RAB

01-25-2004 02:16:44




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 Re: Electricity / Gossip / Battery Weight in reply to Jason, 01-24-2004 14:56:14  
Jason it would help if you knew enough to get your facts right before posting. They say "engage your brain before opening mouth". Now while anyone can try to help and be wrong, they should learn something from their mistakes.

You simply spout: "You all know that an empty oxygen cylinder weighs less than a filled cylinder, but, did you know you can make it weigh even less if you pressurize it to the max with helium?"
Don't be silly, the density of helium, compared to air is about 13%-14% ie. it's specific gravity compared to air where a value of 1.0 is assigned to air. Now if you compress this to the same as a NORMAL oxygen cylinder the density will increase to above 100% of air Remember, if you double the pressure you halve the volume at constant temperature (Boyle's Law, if my memory serves me correctly). Therefore the contents of a fully compressed helium cylinder would weigh more than an empty one of air - near enough the same vapour density as oxygen for this purpose(empty means at atmospheric pressure)
Do you recall the vapour density as being half the molecular weight. Oxygen would have a vapour density of 16 (half of 32 as oxygen is a diatomic gas). Helium is an odd-ball as one of the 'Noble' gases it's vapor density is 2 (ie half its atomic weight, as it is a monatomic gas).

Perhaps you had been told about those tiny oxygen bottles supplied with graft brazing kits. Might be(or might not be) true for those - try working it out!
Regards, RAB

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William

01-25-2004 05:55:13




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 Re: Re: Electricity / Gossip / Battery Weight in reply to RAB, 01-25-2004 02:16:44  
RAB, Lighten up. Since you know alot about such things. Riddle me this Batman...

Where is there?
How far is up?
Just When does East become West?



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Are you having a bad day?

01-25-2004 05:33:50




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 Re: Re: Electricity / Gossip / Battery Weight in reply to RAB, 01-25-2004 02:16:44  
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I knew that

01-24-2004 22:52:11




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 Re: Electricity / Gossip / Battery Weight in reply to Jason, 01-24-2004 14:56:14  
I knew that. Once had a black cow that ate green grass and gave (I took) white milk, that made yellow butter.



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