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Water in tires?

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Giles

01-03-2004 19:40:31




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I recently bought a tractor with 14-9---28 tires. Very humid here in North West Alabama today, and I can see by the condensation on the outside of the tires, that they are about half full of water. I will drain some tomarrow and see if it has anti-freeze mixed with it. If it doesn't, how many gallons of water would be in a tire this size, half full?




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Giles

01-04-2004 14:06:29




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
THANKS for all the responses to my question. I drained enough out of one of the tires to check, and found the water to be pale green. I used an antifreeze checker and it checks unsafe. Here is my question-- The solution drained from my tires has a weard smell, not like rubber or anti-freeze, could it be calcium chloride? I have no experience with c.c. any information you can give would be appreciated.

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Old Joe

01-04-2004 08:18:55




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
Liquid Tire Ballast

The weight achieved by filling the tire 75% full (valve level) with water.
Use of chemical agents to prevent freezing will affect the weight.


TIRE SIZE 14.9-28
53 GALLONS
ADDED WEIGHT (lbs.) PER TIRE 442



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Dieselrider

01-04-2004 06:28:38




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
Try the site below, it gives the tire ballast for most tire sizes. Good info to keep on hand. It could be the tires are loaded with calcium chloride and water. If you drain it out make sure you wash everything very good as the calcium will eat metal pretty good. Personally I would leave the solution in the tires for the traction it affords you, but to each his own. I just put new tires and tubes on my JD and had them filled. The 18.4-30 tires hold over 742 lbs.each without the cal chl. I think there is another 200# with the calcium in. It really makes a difference when pulling something heavy. The calcium chloride keeps the water from freezing if you are in a climate that gets cold you can't run the straight water.

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Lynn Kasdorf

01-04-2004 06:04:06




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
Dumb question here- how do you efficiently get all that liquid into the tires through the valve stem? There must be a tool for this??



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stumpy

01-04-2004 06:29:45




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 Re: Re: Water in tires? in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 01-04-2004 06:04:06  
Lynn, Tractor tubes have air/water stems in them. If you look you will see the end portion is just like a car, however that is removable so an adaptor can be installed to pump whatever fluid you choose into the tubes. Some people use a pump and some use a barrel with a hose to the tube. By putting air to the barrel it forces the liquid into the tube. I am pretty new to this also, but have found like all other topics everyone has a preferance and opinion and all are right for there application. Take all advice then determine your use and best course of action. I got my tires loaded @ the dealer, enjoyed looking at new tractors(and older trade ins) while drinking a cup of coffee. My 11.2x28s are not big by any means so I chose Rim guard (sweet beet juice) for its weight(10.2 lbs pergal) and properties.

Stumpy

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Slowpoke

01-03-2004 23:37:53




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
Chart says 14.9 x 28 holds 53 gallons @ 442lbs.
I would think that's the amount with the fill valve at the top. At 30% AF, that comes to approximately 16 gallons
per tire x 2 tires x $5/gal= $160.



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Van

01-04-2004 07:16:39




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 Re: Re: Water in tires? in reply to Slowpoke, 01-03-2004 23:37:53  
I have a 50 gallon plastic tank that I keep all of my old anti freeze when changine it out of vehicles. Has a hose and I thin it more with water and pump it in the tires with a 110 pump with hose adapers on it. Put some in, bleed off air and go again, can put 35 gallons in about 4 minutes.



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Slowpoke

01-04-2004 08:53:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Water in tires? in reply to Van, 01-04-2004 07:16:39  
Do water adapters bleed off the air as the water is pumped into the tire?



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Van

01-03-2004 20:06:27




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
I put the valve core at the top and fill them up with about 30/70 anti freeze and water. Then bleed the water mix to that level, leaves a air cushion. I got 38 gallons in my 14.6 30's.



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stumpy

01-03-2004 19:53:22




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 Re: Water in tires? in reply to Giles , 01-03-2004 19:40:31  
not sure, but 11.2-28's I had filled with rim guard last weekend took 27 gallons apiece. Yours will take more. Hope that helps

stumpy



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Ol Chief

01-04-2004 20:59:13




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 Re: Re: Water in tires? in reply to stumpy, 01-03-2004 19:53:22  
I noted a suggestion about filling tires from a drum via use of air pressure.For Gods sake and your own safety be very very careful of this method.I once viewed the results of an inexperienced youngster doing this while attempting to emptya drum of heavy cold lube oil. He had hooked up to an 100 # air source using an ordinary 3/4 "globe valve. Then turned on the air.When the drum head began to swell he apparently shut the valve but it leaked and the drum head exploded from the drum. He was evacuated to hospital with serious injuries. If anyone is going to use this means to empty a drum do the math first. PSI means just that! Pounds on every square inch.Now, assume the drum head head has a surface area of two square feet. That means there is a surface equal to 288 square inches. This number multiplied by the psi introduced will produce the outcome total pressure on the drum head.I have seen drum heads begin to swell with a pressure of three psi, which is a total load of 864 pounds on the drum heads.If filling a tire the pressure in the tire will slowly equalize and the tire would need to be vented several times. Caution and Good Luck

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Alvin n Ms.

01-04-2004 08:57:58




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 Re: Re: Water in tires? in reply to stumpy, 01-03-2004 19:53:22  
NAPA sells the adapters.



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