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MT Pockets

12-28-2003 18:13:59




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O.T.My MIL 1992 Ford Taurus completley discharges the battery after sitting for three days.Could someone please direct me to a place for help on this? Thank you very much. MT Pockets




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kraig WY

12-29-2003 07:21:15




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
I just went through this on my diesel pickup. Had just replaced one battery. The other checked out good. I did a paracetic (sp) discharge test which showed no shorts. To do that you disconect the neg. battery cable. Lock the latch on the door handle so the car/system thinks its in sleep mold. Then hook a amp meter to the battery post, and cable, if there is more then .5 amps drawing you have short (half a amp). If it is less than a half amp it has to be the battery, regardless if it test good or not. I changed the second battery and it fixed it. I don't trust any test that shows a battery is good unless it holds a charge in cold weather.

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Mark in AB

12-29-2003 07:59:20




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 Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to kraig WY, 12-29-2003 07:21:15  
When changing batteries in parrellel or series always replace all at once, no matter if some test good or not. The batteries will only be charged as good as the weakest one. If one tested good battery only has 80 percent capacity over a new, your new battery will only be kept at 80 percent charge. Use the old good batteries as spares for your single battery machines.



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dhermesc

12-29-2003 06:33:06




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
Got to:
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Some of those guys are very good.



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Tom

12-29-2003 05:58:57




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
I had an 88 Taurus for 12 years. For about 6 years the car ate a battery every year or two. If the car sat for several days, the battery was down. Finally, after several moves, the local Ford dealer found the drain: it was a tiny worn place in a wire under the power driver seat. Replaced the section of wire - problems all solved - battery lasted and lasted after that. You will have to test each circuit until you find the one causing the drain. You will have to have the Repair Manual and the detail wiring diagrams. BIG job while doing it, and it will seem simple when you find the source of the drain.

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Drewy

12-28-2003 20:55:15




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
the voltage regulator has been known to do this in many vehicles. it is a piece usually bolted to the inner fender with 5 or so wires going to it. it's hard to explain its looks, but if you take it off most parts stores can test them for free. i've had this on my 88 taurus and it's an easy fix to a pain of a problem



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earlschieb

12-28-2003 22:18:12




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 Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to Drewy, 12-28-2003 20:55:15  
Not on a 92 Taurus, it is internal in the alternator, and he has already unhooked that, and it didn't help.



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earlschieb

12-28-2003 20:33:27




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
If all else fails, disconect the battery for the 3 day period, then reconect it and see if it will start, I have seen batterys test good, but go dead in 3 or 4 days.



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Chris

12-28-2003 20:32:10




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
This may be of some help
http://www.allexperts.com/



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Russel

12-28-2003 20:13:57




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
You can't use a test lite and be sure it is telling you anything useful. There are modules and electronics on the newer cars that will keep a test lite on, or as you said, turn it on then it fades out. On your car that is caused by the ECM memory powering up. The only way you can test for a draw is with a digital ammeter. I never trust a battery without proof.



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MT Pockets

12-28-2003 20:29:12




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 Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to Russel, 12-28-2003 20:13:57  
Thanks Russel. There was a few milliamps draw from the neg. post to neg. cable. It would also read about 6.5 volts with a digital meter. The battery has been tested and was reported to be good. I will test it myself by charging it overnight and then turning headlights on. Any more advice? All help is appreciated. Thanks! MT.



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ron chilton

12-28-2003 19:18:36




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
try to unplug the cig. lighter bad about shorted out



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MT Pockets

12-28-2003 19:29:23




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 Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to ron chilton, 12-28-2003 19:18:36  
Thanks Ron,we will try this, but we have already had every fuse and circuit breaker removed from the fuse panel. We checked the trunk light, glove box light, hood light, door lights dash lights, everything else we could think of. What did we miss? Thanks. MT.



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Jailkeeper

12-28-2003 18:52:02




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 Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 18:13:59  
If you're sure the battery condition is ok you can try this -

Remove the neg. battery cable and connect a test light from the battery terminal to the cable. If the test light comes on you have a short circuit somewhere.

You can then take out fuses one at a time, checking the light each time you pull a fuse. (If the dome light works, this will cause the test light to be on when the door is open, you can remove the dome light bulb to eliminate this). When the light goes out, you have discovered the circuit that is shorted. I have used this method successfully many times. Occasionally it fails and that makes it much harder to find the problem. Another possibility is the alternator could be defective, causing a current drain. You can unplug the wires on the alt. to test it also.

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MT Pockets

12-28-2003 19:05:02




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 Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to Jailkeeper, 12-28-2003 18:52:02  
Jailkeeper,we have disconnected alternator,plus we have removed fuses and circuit breakers.With negative cable off,and test light connected to neg.battery post,when you touch neg.cable,the test light comes on for one second then fades out.It will do the same thing on the positive side. Thanks for reply.Any more suggestions? MT.



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steve

12-28-2003 20:15:07




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 Re: Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-28-2003 19:05:02  
an old starter motor can have a small drain. might try that next. happeded to me 10 years ago.



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steveormary

12-28-2003 20:39:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to steve, 12-28-2003 20:15:07  

Trade it off,that is what I had to do. Several years ago I bought the wife a used 96 Sable. She didnt like that car from the beginning. Got tired of her gripping so told her to pick out a new car this time. She did and now she is happier.

steveormary



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MT Pockets

12-29-2003 09:13:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to steveormary, 12-28-2003 20:39:33  
Thank you to everybody that responded to my question. I liked the advice on trading it off. MIL did not. If and when we find the problem, I will submit a new post to tell you what it was. And any more advice will be welcomed. Thanks. MT.



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MT POCKETS

12-31-2003 13:02:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1992 Ford Taurus in reply to MT Pockets, 12-29-2003 09:13:49  
We had the battery tested again by a different person, same test machine, and the battery tested bad as i suspected it would. Installed a new battery and everything seems to be okay. Thanks to everyone for your help! MT.



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