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Tom In Texas

12-17-2003 13:07:16

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I have 2 1/2 acres of mesquite stumps to remove. I have an 850 Ford tractor with wheel weights and fluid filled tires. Is this tractor sufficient to remove the stumps? If so, what is the best method to use so I don't kill myself or damage my tractor? I have a scraper blade. Should I use it like a dozer or should I wrap each stump with a chain and pull? Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your help.

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big man

12-18-2003 15:06:45

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

sub-soiler sub-soiler sub-soiler one blade aound and around hook in center and carefully lift if it dont pop do it again

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JAE-Tx

12-18-2003 11:41:45

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

The real question is size of the stumps, of course, but for small stumps (up to 4-5" dia.) you might try a grubbing blade on your 850. It's a 3 pt attachment, available here in central TX.

I have good luck with it on Cedar here in the Cross Timbers area - mesquite may be a different story.

Best of luck.

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John A.

12-17-2003 21:54:27

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Tom, I hope you poisoned those mesquites before you cut them down! If no, you have got one big mess on your hands. Where are you Blacklands, Edwards plateau, South Texas, Central,? Your soil type, and what you will do with the 2.5 acres will dictate your best recourse. Shallow soils, poison..cutoff..let the native grasses take back over. Deep soils, a dozer, will get out as much roots as possible... plant grass...poison new sprouts 2 times/yr.
A dozer will make large holes where the root ball comes out and back dragging probably won't be enough to fill back, short of hauling some soil in. Especially in shallow soil areas. With Mesquite it will be a multiple offenceive attack to keep it in check.
A dozer is your best way to remove the stump. With us being over 10 in. of rain Short for the year. @ my house. they might pop out with very little difficulity now. I popped out some cedar trees last week with my 966 and there was surprising little soil with the root balls.
Be so very carefutl if you try ti do anything with you ford it is a lighter rig and they have been known to flip over.
Hope this helps!,
John A

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marlowe

12-17-2003 19:43:33

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

i do this for a living. most of the time i use a case 455 with a 4in1 bucket bite and just lift them out 6 to 8 in. in size any bigger i use a backhoe with a thumh DO NOT USE YOUR TRACTOR

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Dave_Id

12-17-2003 19:29:39

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Forget the dozer, hire an excavator. I had about 7 acres cleared a couple of years ago. I had lots of 6 inch lodge pole and cut out 5 loads of timber... The excavator came in and plucked the trees out like carrots, and stacked the trees and brush and stumps on piles with a minimum of dirt so it was easy burning the piles later

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John S. - Tx

12-17-2003 19:16:19

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

If you live int the country you may try burning them out. I have burned most of mine out with great success. Hovever for those to big for that I found some stuff at Tractor Supply that I love. Tree Rot. Takes a little while but you just drill a whole pour it in and let mother nature do the rest. Mine took about a month. Best of all NO HARD WORK and ITS CHEAP!!!!

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Cliff

12-17-2003 18:43:27

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Please be carefull about pulling stumps with anything attached to your 3 point hitch. I met a guy in an ER a few years ago that was lucky to still be here. His 8 N went over on top of him doing the same thing.

I bought a used stump grinder that mounts on the tractor 3 point lift and have found it much faster and also easier on my tractor clutch. IT does not leave a stump hole.

Even been asked to do some for the folks around the area for cash. Guess a guy could make a few bucks with one. If he had the time.

Mine is a used Ashland Stump Master.

By the way I am located in East Texas. What part of Texas are you located?

Good Luck

Cliff

Ashalnd stumpgrinders

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Tom in Texas

12-17-2003 18:20:11

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Ya'll have convinced me. I think I'll hire a bull dozer and sit in the shade with a six pack while the dozer does it's work. I'll save the tractor for when it's all over and I can disk the ground smooth.

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Ron

12-17-2003 18:04:24

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Blow them out with Dynomite....or dig them out by hand...you can pull the roots out after you cut them off the stump....works great for Maple Pine and Oak..

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Dan

12-17-2003 17:59:48

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Technique is what it takes... or LOTS OF POWER

First you must have a couple of heavy chains secure it to a large root tap it 3/4 of the way around the tree then strech it to another tree the longer the distance the better connect another chain midway between the two trees stumps and at a vector of 90 degrees (like pulling a bow back to shoot an arrow) pull easy no jerking.

If you run the math you will be amazed how much advantage this will give.

DO NOT USE Cable or strap as they will strech and if they snap they could be leathal

dan-0

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bob

12-17-2003 17:29:56

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

you could do it like they did with mules. Bore a post hole beside the stump, then put stout post in hole smaller in diameter than hole, Then hook chain from back of tractor to top of post. Now you are pulling downward & the post acts as a pry bar, popping shallow-rooted stump out.

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Stan TN

12-18-2003 22:55:09

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Re: Re: removing stumps? in reply to bob, 12-17-2003 17:29:56

Another method horse farmers used was to twist the stumps out. Attach a log dog to a short chain, sink the dog in the stump and take about 3/4 of a wrap around it. At the end of the chain attach a long pole. Attach the pole to the tractor and twist the stump out. You may have to take a subsoiler and plow around the bigger trees to cut the larger roots.

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RJ-AZ

12-17-2003 17:16:15

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Again this is a regional thing. If you are talking brushy Mesquite you might hook on on and try it. But if these are mature Mesquite TREES then you had better plan on a bigger machine, maybe a backhoe. I have used a JD 4020 and blade for small stuff. Besr I've seen is a root rake on a dozer. For those not familiar a Mesquite doesn't have a big tap root, it is more of a spreader type root system.

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Bill Devlin

12-17-2003 16:56:19

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

I have had some success pulling trees, but not just the stump, by attaching a chain, not a nylon strap to a bumper on the front of a Ford 600, about 5' up the tree, if its 4 or 5 inches in diameter.

I can't empasize to much, chain not a stretching rope or tow strap, and hook on the the front and back it out, lest you flip the tractor pulling from the rear.

I pulled on a stuck pickup from the rear last year, and damned near flipped the tractor backwards, front was about 2' in the air before I saw what was happening. When you back it up, the force is pulling the front end down, not up.

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Ben in KY

12-18-2003 06:25:22

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Re: Re: removing stumps? in reply to Bill Devlin, 12-17-2003 16:56:19

Bill,
Just curious, were you pulling from the drawbar or 3 point ?

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Bill

12-17-2003 16:38:09

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

I would cut the stumps off even with the ground. Then put some fill over the even stumps and then they will rot---eventually. I would say that the most dangerous thing to do is to pull them out with a chain connected to a tractor. Besides a tractor doesnt have enough power, you need a back hoe to claw out them out.

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Mike (WA)

12-17-2003 17:20:14

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Re: Re: removing stumps? in reply to Bill, 12-17-2003 16:38:09

Mesquite sounds like a dry climate to me- the stumps probably wouldn't rot out in your lifetime, and you will be unhappy with it as pasture if you can't plow and till the land. Get a guy with a bulldozer and root em out-

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MikeH-Tx

12-17-2003 16:32:26

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

I'm guessing this is new to you or you wouldn't be asking. Listen to the other two - this is not the right machine for pulling stumps. You need a dozer.

If you try, you will risk flipping the tractor. Stumps are too close to the ground to easily pull out and the tractor will try to lift the front end off the ground when you start pulling. People get hurt trying this.

If you have further trees to remove, you can cut them off higher than stumps and use a chain to pull them out that way. Tree trunks are easier to get out if they are several feet high. Even then, be careful: you are pulling them toward yourself. A lot of energy can get spring loaded via a bent tree trunk.

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Clem

12-17-2003 15:17:10

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Get somebody with the proper equipment and know how. If you don't anyone ask the county extension agent. He'll know who does that kind of work locally. Then talk to a couple and see what they recommend. There are probably a couple ways to go depending on what you intend to do with the land.

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Ray

12-17-2003 14:31:51

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Re: removing stumps? in reply to Tom In Texas, 12-17-2003 13:07:16

Forget trying pulling stumps it usually doesn't
work.A stump grinder is your best bet,and you
don't have a big hole to fill up afterwords.
If you want them completetly removed a backhoe
works great,but again you'll need extra dirt to
fill the hole back and it will settle for years
needing extra attention.Both of these can be
rented.

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Alvin n Ms.

12-18-2003 11:36:04

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Re: Re: removing stumps? in reply to Ray, 12-17-2003 14:31:51

Tom, I got a feeling that you are determined to do the job yourself, so go ahead and flirt with disaster if you must. At least it will be rewarding to do a tough job with inadequate equipment. Back in the early 50s I pulled pine tree stumps with a Ford jubilee, that had tap roots up to 9ft long,after we dug around them of course.(lots of them known as fatlitterd) I would pull from a drawbar between the lift arms, and keep your foot on the clutch at all times so you can prevent the front end from getting too high, you can slip the clutch and let the lift lever down. These days I would tie an old tire in between, and sling shot them out. Some turkeys want us to play it safe while they jump into their SUVs, fasten the seat belts, then try to run us down in the parking lot, as they head off down the road at a hundred and ten. If they get hurt its the auto mfgs. fault. So I say go for it, just remember to have your insurance payed up. A little double indemnity won't hurt anything. Good luck, let us know when you get the job completed. alvinnms

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