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Ben E.

12-14-2003 07:53:54




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Any opinions on who should get the reward for Saddam's capture? I think it should be paid to all our troops serving/served in iraq.

Ben E.




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Terry

12-15-2003 14:37:24




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
That is a very interesting question. Your idea about splitting it with all troops involved in the conflict is a good one I think as well. It's better than some government agency getting their hands on it.



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Too Simple

12-15-2003 03:41:16




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
Strange that this discussion got as many responses as it did. The answer would seem pretty simple, would the $25 Million not go to the informant(s) who put the forces onto the whereabouts of the culprit? I mean that was the deal wasn't it. It's been established (if you believe the media) that there was somebody (or a group of somebody's) who told of his hideout location so he (they) would receive the money. Unless of course old George changes his promise and surely that would never happen would it? He's never told a lie in his life.

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..of course

12-15-2003 08:14:39




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 Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Too Simple, 12-15-2003 03:41:16  
~"Unless of course old George changes his promise and surely that would never happen would it? He's never told a lie in his life"~

maybe we should just contact ol' slick-willie and ask him to define the word "lie" for us... he did such a good job of defining the word "is"



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D.L.

12-15-2003 10:27:38




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 Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to ..of course, 12-15-2003 08:14:39  
You got that right!!! (about the 'ol schlick meister)

The way I heard it on the news (if you can believe ANY of that) was that the information came from OTHER slime balls that had been recently captured... do you think we ought to give THEM the dough ?????



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William

12-14-2003 21:49:49




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
You guys better watch it. Those black helicopters will be circling you farms!



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MarkB

12-14-2003 18:24:13




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
The reward will go to the guys who ratted him out. Which was the whole point of the reward. After all, do you think our troops needed any extra incentive to catch Saddam?



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wdTom

12-14-2003 17:33:55




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
Excellent idea!! Now we all need to write our represenatives and tell them to do it. Yeah, fat chance, but worth a shot.



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old

12-14-2003 09:30:43




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
Well knowing the way they do things, the money will probably not go to anyone that it should. They will figure out how to spend it on rebuilding that country or say the guy that told them is also on the most wanted etc. Just ask a Disabled Vet. how long it takes to get any of his disabilaty, or a disabled person trying to get his social security. Face it the Gov. will figure out how to keep it and spend it on $500 hammers or something. Sorry I love my country but don't like how they treat disabled people, Vets or other wise Just my 2 cents worth, as a Disabled Vet.

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Les...fortunate

12-14-2003 10:15:19




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 Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to old, 12-14-2003 09:30:43  
Well, old, I'm also a vet who receives disability from the government. I'm not saying the system is perfect or anywhere near it but it's people like you who would have us be a group of whiners who never got a fair shake on anything. To listen to you and believe you would mean that I would have to believe that there was a great conspiracy meant only to hold us down and enrich the pockets of those who are already rich.
For crying out loud, quit your whining and go do something useful with your life. I've had it all the way to my eyeballs with the "poor me" b1tchin that comes from veterans' advocates. Get a life.

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Gimpleg Fagon

12-14-2003 12:52:22




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 Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 10:15:19  
Les, you mean there really ain't no conspiracy??? Well, I'll be dogged !! And me a vet, too.



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old

12-14-2003 10:33:26




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 Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 10:15:19  
Well les, you must be one of the lucky few that didn't have to fight the system. It took me 3 years to get my 10% service connected and then after back surgery,knee,and shoulder, another 3 years to get up to 70% with the V.A. and I'm still fighting with social security and that is going on 5 years. So I think I have a good reason not to believe in the system



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Van

12-14-2003 20:23:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to old, 12-14-2003 10:33:26  
I retired from the AF Oct 2002, I filed all my VA paperwork and they had me come in and take another physical, which was a waste of money because I just had a retirement physical in Sept 02 got a letter in April 2003 and had my 70% disability retroactive to Oct 1, 2002 by May 5, 2003 and received my back pay also. They even sent me a letter explaining what percent was for what and "if" I felt I needed more to call and get another appointment and they would re-evaluate. I really can't complain- - - and won't!
Van

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Les...fortunate

12-14-2003 11:21:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to old, 12-14-2003 10:33:26  
As you see by my handle, I tend to be optimistic. If you want to whine and have low expectations, go right at it. But don't be surprised when people tire of hearing the same old sorry song.



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D.L.

12-14-2003 12:38:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 11:21:05  
Hey Les, I'm an old vet who agrees with you... As far as "old" is concerned, I'm not trying to stir the pot... but, I believe each of us has to choose, every morning when we get out of bed, what we will do for ourselves. Some choose to lay around the house and "watch Oprah" while others go out each day and fight the good fight. I spent 20 years (yeah, I was a lifer) in the armed forces, and I couldn't tell you the number of my friends and colleagues who failed to take advantage of their benefits when they left the service. Then, long after the fact, I would hear "man, I should've done ...." Just as trying to deal with the various agencies in the military was difficult, dealing with the VA can be frustrating, but it can be done! I'm proud to say that I have gone back to school (after all these years) and I'm getting ever closer to earning my degree, ...all courtesy of the Dept of Veteran's Affairs, who sends me a check each and every month!!! Sometimes, I get a bit crosswise with the bureaucracy, but, with perseverence, I get what I need.

As far as the 25 million, it's a real shame that it can't go to the families of those who've paid the ultimate price to assure the security of our nation... but we all know that will never happen. We can at least let the troops know how much we appreciate their efforts!!!

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Les...fortunate

12-14-2003 15:08:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to D.L., 12-14-2003 12:38:13  
You are right on, D.L. Saddam was caught mostly because of human intelligence. Those who supplied the information that led to his capture should get the reward offered in the deal and I'd be willing to lay money that they will.



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nope- ain't like that

12-15-2003 14:23:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 15:08:19  
The information that led to the capture was gained by interogation. No reward will be paid out according to news sources today. Washington Post has an article online.

Still- believe it ought to go to our fallen brother's families. Mike D.



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old

12-14-2003 11:51:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 11:21:05  
I read you name as you don't have a lot, not trying to put you down by the way just that les and less sound and look the same so the name looks to say less fortunate, as in not haveing. As far as the rest of what I have said Iwas not whineing I just don't have much faith in the way the goverment works anymore. But don't get me wrong I was in the Navy 6 years and if I had it to do again I would be proud to. I'm sorry if I offend you in anyway I don't believe in ever putting any one down and I don't ever try to. This all started about the $25 million reward and what might happen to it, not about whineing or name calling etc.

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Les...fortunate

12-14-2003 15:05:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to old, 12-14-2003 11:51:56  
old, in the very first sentence of your first post, you took that opportunity to speculate that the money will not be going to who (in your eyes) it should go to. As if that was to be expected. Experience apparently tells you that you and any others who are really deserving, should plan on being screwed by the government. What a great way to look upon life. Not for me.
My name happens to be Les. In my handle, I separate it from Fortunate by ... so that the double entendre should be fairly obvious. At least I thought it was. If you think I'm calling myself "less fortunate" and worthy of pity, well, you certainly realize by now that that is not the case.

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Nolan

12-15-2003 05:02:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 15:05:48  
I'd have to say the speculation was well earned by the US government. The same government that still hasn't provided the 9/11 relief it promised to New York. The same government who never even bothered to offer that relief to the Pentagon victims. The same government that hasn't provided the flood relief promised here. The list goes on and on.

Glad you did well with the VA. After years of fighting them they finally won through grinding me down. Demands I fill out forms they didn't send me. Insisting I show up for hearings weeks in the past. Then there was their own private kangaroo courts.

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wdTom

12-14-2003 17:39:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Les...fortunate, 12-14-2003 15:05:48  
Hey Less, thanks for explalining , I always wondered about your situation and name.



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Mike Schotte

12-14-2003 08:32:58




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 Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Ben E., 12-14-2003 07:53:54  
They deserve the money- but legally they can't receive it. Just like that $1 million dollar bounty that Bruce Willis offered to whomever captured Saddam.

That would make them paid mercenaries instead of soldiers, which is why they can't receive it.

The money will probably be paid to the informant who led them there (if there was one this time.)

-Schotte



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huh? how 'bout

12-14-2003 08:45:32




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 Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to Mike Schotte, 12-14-2003 08:32:58  
letting the money (OUR MONEY) go to the widows and orphans of our fallen? Mike D.



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KURT (mi)

12-14-2003 12:10:56




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 Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to huh? how 'bout, 12-14-2003 08:45:32  
That sounds good to me, about 400+ have died, split it up between them. But the US government would never do it.



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Mike Schotte

12-14-2003 08:50:17




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 Re: Re: Re: $25 million reward? in reply to huh? how 'bout, 12-14-2003 08:45:32  
That makes entirely too much sense for it to ever actually happen... (grin)



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