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Jones

12-12-2003 20:53:46




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Is the infatuation with older tractors because of a love of machine or is it a part of your history that reminds us of previous memories or is it a way to save a part of history?




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Dave Olson

12-13-2003 18:31:37




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
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-I wrote this about the time I bought my 1st tractor last year. This was my attempt to explain to myself and others why I would buy old tractors! I will also try to post a picture of 3 of my tractors. You see after getting the H last year, I decided to get an example of all the tractors that we had on the farm when I was a kid! Keep in mind I live in town, and no land to work this equipment!

“You can take the boy off the farm, but you can’t take the farm out of the boy!”

I caught a little glimpse of it when I was driving in town one day a month or so ago. I was in a hurry to an appointment and then forgot about it. A week or so later I noticed it again and it looked like the old tractor we had on the farm when I was a kid. The next time I went by I noticed a sign tied to the front of the tractor. A week or so later I had more time so I stopped to check it out!

The sign was a For Sale sign $1500. At first I didn’t think it was an “H” even though the letter was on the hood. I though it was too small to be an “H” could they have put the wrong ID on it! This is when the memories of being on the farm started coming back. I have not been around an “H” and have not been involved with farming either for over 45 years. Obviously the reason the “H” looked so small to me now was I was only 10 to 12 years old when most of these memories were made. I will be 60 later this year.

We were city farmers; my dad was a painting and plastering contractor. We moved from Los Angeles to northern Illinois in 1952, I was 9 years old. We moved to a farm (120 acres) just outside of Elgin about a year after coming to Illinois. Most farms in this area at that time were small and had dairy herds.

My dad wanted to do things as he had done when he was young and living on a farm. We had chickens, pigs, sheep; cattle and even had a goat when I was in 4H and FFA. We had about 80 acres of tillable land for corn, oats, and soybeans. Had about 20 acres of timothy/alfalfa hay and another 20 acres or so of permanent pasture. Very hilly land and had peat in the low-lying areas.

One year my dad got a bundler to put up one of our cornfields. It was a one-row pull behind machine. It would cut the stalks just above the ground, gather several together and it used bailing twine to secure it and toss the bundle on the ground. Later we came back and picked up the bundles and put them on their end and leaned them together. Looked kind of like a teepee. Later dad had a fellow come in with a thrashing machine and chopped all of it up and put it in the upper part of the hay moue. Sure was a lot of hard work!

The barn on this farm was set up for a dairy. One hundred foot long and it had stanchions for the cows, box stalls on the end for calves. Large hay moue and bins for storing grain for the cattle. This was before bulk pick up of milk so the milk house had the open top concrete tanks filled with cold water to keep the cans of milk cold until the truck picked the cans up.

The reason I lump all of these memories together when I look at my “H” (I bought it last week!) is we used this tractor to do most all of the work. We also had an old Case that was converted from steel wheels to rubber, but the old “H” did most of the work. But the Case was stronger pulling the plow (2-14’s or 16’s) and disking. All of the control levers were hand operated (no foot pedals)!!

We had a sickle mower to cut the hay for baling. We had a two-row cultivator and a two-row corn picker (picked corn by the ear). All of these mounted on the “H”. The picker was way too much equipment for this tractor to operate! We would put a belt on the flywheel on the right side and run a hammer mill to grind grain for the cattle. The power take off could run the elevator that we used to run the bales of hay up into the barn. The same elevator was used to put the ear corn into the corncrib.

Dad’s been gone now for over 20 years. I think he would approve of me buying this old “H” even though I really have no real use for it! We have room to keep it inside and as time and money permit I will try to bring it back to what it once was just to keep the memories alive!

Dave Olson - East-Central Illinois

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I Like Case

12-13-2003 17:13:52




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
For me it is all about relating to the previous generation. My Dad passed away when I was 17. We didn't have much but I got his '29 L. Years later I got together with a family that today is just as close as blood. Together Pops and I work on and play with a pretty good collection. And having him around is better than a owners manual cause he has lived about all of it and is more than willing to pass it on. And at the same time I do my best to stay connected with todays youth-not always easy but I keep a pretty open mind and hope that I am connecting with them and passing on a few lessons.

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jones

12-13-2003 15:52:55




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
Some interesting comments. For me, it was life on the relatives farm that bring back the memories. There is something about man and machine, funny how a person can be pulled in.



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Larry NE IL

12-13-2003 14:43:05




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
I agree with Nebraska cowman (and was also impressed) it's a real personal thing. I grew up on 7 acres with 3 cows, some pigs and chickens, a '38 Farmall F-20 and about the same vintage JD A.
All our neighbors used Oliver 70's. They looked like race cars to me! So I don't collect what I grew up running, but I've got a barn full of Olivers.



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Ron

12-13-2003 09:08:18




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
I Vote "ALL of THE ABOVE"...!!

You can get a perfectly good reliable piece of equipment for 1/10th the price ( or less) of a new one, and it WILL out-last you..!! Besides, some take a little "finnesse" to get the full potential out of them, and that gives you Pride in Operating them..!! Myself, i don't need a cab, radio and (Yuk) air-conditioning... A-ha...!!! I SEE.. I am from a Different generation..!! Maybe we were brought up Digging 20 Rod of tile each year, making 200 acres of hay, picked up off the ground ( JD WIRE-TIE)...Shoveling load after load of grain--and that means Ear-Corn too, from a wagon, to a truck-every day...then working in the Cemetary, digging graves for extra money... Ofcourse there were chores to do, too...Beef Cattle, Hogs and Sheep. I suppose growing up with these set our perspectives..we were NOT afraid to Work--We Loved it...!! Gloves were for Sissies, and who needed an Umberella..??? I am Glad I lived then, when Men were men...!! AND NONE wore their Sister's Clothes ( Or Ear Rings)....

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Larry NE IL

12-13-2003 14:30:11




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 Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to Ron, 12-13-2003 09:08:18  
THANK GOD!!!



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buickanddeere

12-13-2003 07:27:31




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
No different than a middle aged to senior male at his peak earning years trying to buy back his youth. There is a market for 20 to 40 year old cars for restoration as well. Can't give away prisine Model T,A's even 57 Chevies etc. Guys who bought them new or drove them as kids are dead from old age now. 2nd group of collectors just want to keep a piece of Dad, Granddad or uncle alive in a peice of machinery they had.

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Dave H

12-13-2003 06:52:32




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
I don't know. I have no history with old tractors.
I DO think they are pretty special to look at and run. Find some nut (like me) out cutting hay with an old tractor, an ancient sickle bar, and assorted other antiques and offer to help. There is nothing like that deep rumbling engine as it does the work it was intended for. You might get hooked. I have hay customers who come help me load bales and refuse to take so much as one free bale for their trouble. They seem to just like riding the wagons or driving the tractor and being out in the field. Try it! Then you will know.

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Dieselrider

12-13-2003 06:08:29




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
I don't care I just like em. Would you mind stepping aside you're blocking the view of that tractor.



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jim

12-13-2003 06:03:56




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
For all the reasons you mention plus the following - 1 - Proven technology 2 - Simpler design 3 - Less electronics which tend to fail at the furthest point from the barn. 4 - Affordable (you own it not the bank)



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Nebraska Cowman

12-13-2003 03:48:38




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
It is because of our selfish nature we tend to favor things that remind us of another time and place far removed from our present troubles. It is an escape from the humdrum ho ho of everyday life and give us a sense of comfort that some thing can stay the same, only if it is only in our mind. We hang on to the past because we are afraid of the future.



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Roy in UK

12-13-2003 03:11:40




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
Its a lot better to be infatuated with old tractors than to dress up like Captain Kirk and learn to speak Klingon!



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John S-B

12-14-2003 15:21:59




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 Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to Roy in UK, 12-13-2003 03:11:40  
Anyone know if you can convert a farmall M to warp drive?



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Steve from Mo - huh?

12-13-2003 08:51:25




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 Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to Roy in UK, 12-13-2003 03:11:40  
We have some guys around here, not to mention names, who have been photographed in suspiciously feminine clothing.



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SmallOps

12-13-2003 04:38:54




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 Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to Roy in UK, 12-13-2003 03:11:40  
Ahh, but think about the pleasures associated with dressing like Kirk, muttering a few phrases in Klingon AND mounting the Operator's Station on a fully functioning... Eee-Tee-Dee!!! 8^)



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greenbeanman

12-13-2003 05:55:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to SmallOps, 12-13-2003 04:38:54  
What a good laugh you brought. I've been a fan of the Star Trek series for longer than I'd like to admit.

Quite a number of years ago when I was dating, I told the young lady I was with that she was, "A pretty creature." "CREATURE", she inquired? Thankfully for me, she too, appreciated Star Trek.

If you want a real shocker you should look up the actress, Jolene Blaylock, who plays T'pol on the new Enterprise series. While in the series she is of a dark skinned species, she is in reality a Caucasion shown as a blond in her actress profile.
She looks great as either.

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Roy in UK

12-13-2003 05:07:40




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It could have its advantages:-



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Larry Ne IL

12-13-2003 14:37:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to Roy in UK, 12-13-2003 05:07:40  
HMMMMM, looks like it's still a tad wet for plowin!



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Frank

12-13-2003 11:56:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about tractors in reply to Roy in UK, 12-13-2003 05:07:40  
Some thing wrong with this picture. No mud on the tires.



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Roy in UK

12-13-2003 14:52:27




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Apparently its not mud its peat, which dries quickly and falls off



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Bob

12-12-2003 21:17:46




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 Re: Question about tractors in reply to Jones, 12-12-2003 20:53:46  
YES!



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RAB

12-12-2003 23:56:09




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And I second that. Quite right and a good, honest reply.
Regards,RAB



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Nathan

12-13-2003 15:03:51




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I'll third it!



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