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In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tractors.

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Josh Weil

12-07-2003 10:43:39




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Hi All. I'm wondering if someone out there might be able to give me some advice. I'm a writer working on a novel that involves - I know it sounds odd - around a man who is devoted to repairing an antique tractor from the year he was born. Here's the catch: it has to have a diesel engine (he's converting it be able to run on biodiesel - vegetable grease). And it has to have been built sometime around the early 20's to the late 30's. I know most tractors weren't running on diesel then, but I understand some European-made ones were toward the late twenties. Right now I'm thinking of going with either a Duetz MT320 from 1926 or a HSCS K-40 from the mid-twenties. Does anyone out there have any other ideas? Or any reasons why those two choices wouldn't be feasable? Really, I'd be tremendously grateful for any ideas, help, suggestions...etc. I grew up around farmers and farms but don't know a whole lot about tractors. I'm learning, I'm learning. And this site is invaluable. Thanks so much to you all in advance.

- Josh

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jdemaris

12-08-2003 08:56:47




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 Re: In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tractors. in reply to Josh Weil, 12-07-2003 10:43:39  
After looking at some of your responses, I'm wondering if you are you looking for information on old tractors that are diesels and actually used the Diesel principle for combustion that Rudolph Diesel invented ca. 1892, or are you also interested in old tractors that are multi-fuel, and will run on kerosene, diesel, gas, etc. but are not diesels and utilize a spark ignition? There's a big difference, and it seems if your story is to involve bio-diesel, then you need the subject of be a true diesel engine that uses compression for combustion rather than spark. Off course, there were lots of old tractors that were converted to "collector gas" and ran on firewood and trash fumes, but that's a different story.

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Oldfarmboy Jim

12-08-2003 00:01:33




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 Re: In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tractors. in reply to Josh Weil, 12-07-2003 10:43:39  
A good bunch of tractors ran on kerosene, distillate, etc. back then. Some started on gasoline until warmed up and then switched over to the less volatile fuel. I remember my Mom's uncle talking about vaporizers instead of carburators. Check out a Rumley Oil Pull. It might fit the bill. Jim



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buickanddeere

12-07-2003 15:45:01




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 Re: In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tractors. in reply to Josh Weil, 12-07-2003 10:43:39  
I don't have my refernce books here but didn't Lance start building thier big single stove oil burner way back about then? May have to make your character a bit younger and go with a 49 "R" or a 55 "80" for a good one.



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jdemaris

12-07-2003 15:21:57




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 Re: In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tractors. in reply to Josh Weil, 12-07-2003 10:43:39  
Caterpillar had several diesel crawler tractors starting ca. 1932. The "Diesel" ca. 1932, "35" ,"50", and "75" ca. 1933; McCormick-Deering had the T-40 diesel ca. 1934, and Cletrac had the model "40" diesel in 1935; etc. &c.



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Red Dave

12-07-2003 12:53:22




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 Re: In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tractors. in reply to Josh Weil, 12-07-2003 10:43:39  
International Harvester built the WD40 from 1935 to 1940. Started on Gasoline then switched over to run on diesel. I don't know of any farm tractors that had a diesel engine earlier than that in the US. Maybe somebody else knows if there were any before that.



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Farmall Kid

12-08-2003 09:42:52




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 Re: Re: In Need of Help about Antique Diesel Tract in reply to Red Dave, 12-07-2003 12:53:22  
they r hard to find but some international F-20's had diesels put in them as an aftermarket deal. much of this happened in the 30's so u could use an F-20 with the aftermarket diesel motor in it.



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