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I Like Case

11-07-2003 07:04:36




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I have just put up a new shop and would like to have hot water radiant heat in the floor. If anyone has any experience with this please let me hear about it-good and bad. Thanks.




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MarkB

11-07-2003 19:38:28




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
I just poured the floor in my shop. I went ahead and bit the bullet and prepped it for radiant heat. 1000' ft of 1/2 in. PEX for 1200 sq. ft. 2 in. high density foamboard insulation around the perimeter and under the outer 4 feet of the floor. 1 inch insulation under the rest. This was a lot of expense and aggravation, but you only get one chance to do it.

I plan on going the water heater route, too. It only requires about 25-30 Btu/hr per sq ft.

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Johnbo

11-07-2003 16:52:52




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
I put it in my shop 5 years ago.The temp.is the same from floor to ceiling.It is set up in five zones with 300'of1/2 pex tubing in each zone.I put 2"of insulation under concrete and around the footer.I use a 30 gallon electric water heater with a small pump connected to the thermostat.I got my supplies from Aqua-therm in Mn.If you have any questions send e-mail.



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Dieselrider

11-07-2003 16:21:50




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
We put in a machine shop here last year and put in radiant heat. I am glad we did, it is real nice heat and very effecient. Here are a couple things for you to keep in mind.1) Plan everything out before you start, ie; we've since talked about putting in a lift but don't now dare drill into the floor. You can use a more expensive pipe that lets you locate it later. 2) Put in overhead doors as opposed to sliders. Sliders are hard to seal. 3) Put the foam board down as the other feller suggested. 4) Plan on a good furnace as ours was hooked up when it was cold out and the 96,000 btu furnace ran for a week to get the rock warmed. I do not think you could use a water heater unless you live in a warmer climate. The only time this type of heat is not truely appreciated is in the spring and fall when it runs all night to heat the floor and by the time the floor is warm we have to open the doors to let in cooler air because it warmed up outside. Just my 2cents.

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RAB

11-08-2003 09:18:33




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 Re: Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to Dieselrider, 11-07-2003 16:21:50  
You should be able to locate the run of your pipes using an infra-red scanner/camera, or maybe by hand if you check with a cold floor and then turn on the heating. Damped floor would dry closest to the pipes first also. Might help to get your lift installed. What centres are these pipes set at?
Regards,RAB



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Jim in N M

11-07-2003 15:28:06




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
I put it in my home three yrs. ago ,I have seven thermostats with nine zones. I must haves "Miles" of weresbo tubeing 3/4 od 5/8 Id in the floor. Great comfortable heat.not expensive to run! The down side is You can't turn the heat up and down,you MUST keep it on,because it takes awhile to warm up the floor. but once you have it warm it is so nice.another thing, I doubt you can keep it working vary well useing a "Hot water heater" as a boiler,maybe if you live in a more moderate temp area it might work. just my 2-cents. Jim in N M

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RAB

11-07-2003 13:06:50




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
At the temperatures you need to run, most of the heat will be due to warm air convection, not radiant energy. You have warm everything, including feet. The advantages of having a warm floor to lay on while working must be a great help. We don't come across it in UK - well it's sure not very common. We are either much more hardy than you Americans or maybe your temps are a just a tad lower than we normally have to put up with! Also at UK energy prices, heating the air is probably all we can afford!!
Go for it every time, the extra expense of installation at the building stage will not be so much.
Regards,RAB

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Don Wadge

11-07-2003 09:50:36




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
Very common here in Manitoba, way more comfortable and significant energy saving. Be sure to use the correct materials and adequat zoning. There is special plastic pipe used for this that is not all that expensive.



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evielboweviel

11-07-2003 08:59:19




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
search on here for:
Heat for farm shop
good discussion



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evielboweviel

11-07-2003 08:49:20




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
I had it in my shop and never got to use it before selling. Highly recomend that you put 1" foam board under it. use high density designed for underground burial and use reinforceing in floor also use plastic pipe to a header along the wall as one loop is not enough. also search for other shop floor tips on here. have been some very good discusions in the last 6 months.
good luck



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rustyfarmall

11-07-2003 08:21:06




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
Put up a new shop about 5 years ago, never gave a thought to radiant floor heat at the time. If I had it to do over again, I would definately put it in the floor.
No matter how warm the shop is now, the floor is still very cold.



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old

11-07-2003 08:14:20




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 Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to I Like Case, 11-07-2003 07:04:36  
I had a friend that did that, when he poured his floor he put copper pipe in it and then hooked up a water heater to a pump to run the water around the loop. Seemed to work well. Hope this helps



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Robert in W. Mi

11-07-2003 13:24:57




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 Re: Re: Opinions/Tips on radiant heat in reply to old, 11-07-2003 08:14:20  
The thing is, the concrete over time will react with the pipe, and he's going to have leaks all over the place!!! Copper pipe was tried years and years ago, and all of it failer over time!

Use the PEX tubeing made for this use, and you will love the heat!!

Robert



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