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john

10-18-2003 17:18:38

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its kinda handy having your favorite rifle or shotgun with u when your out in the field working, but can be in the way when your running the tractor. has anyone found a solution to this? how do people keep there guns on there tractors?what kinda gadgets can people come up with? you never know when some dumb coon or woodchuck runs out in front of the tractor-or better yet that trophy buck you've been after...any comments much apprectated

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Farmered

10-19-2003 06:15:59

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

These days you can't even hire someone to plow your back forty so preventing tractor hijacking wouldn't fly as a reason to to be armed. Years ago on the farm we had a surplus army weapons carrier (aka.
Dodge Power Wagon) with a machine gun mount. Sounds like a good idea to me. Ed

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KURT (mi)

10-19-2003 04:18:37

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

First I would like to say that it does sound fun driving your tractor and shooting game, kinda of redneckish--but so what. It is too bad that you cant buy silencers for your firearms easily so that it would be less of a chance of getting caught by the cops. I wish that here in Michigan it was easier to shoot deer on your own land, those deer are a real nuisance and they cause of lot of car wrecks in this state. Oh well have fun and dont get busted.

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stick

10-19-2003 06:47:46

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to KURT (mi), 10-19-2003 04:18:37

No kidding..... .I work in one province, but live and own land in another. Because I spend more time at work than at home, I'm considered a non-resident for hunting purposes, and I'm not legally allowed to hunt on my own land!

Oh, and my long hair just can't cover up my red neck!

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Uncle

10-19-2003 05:59:25

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to KURT (mi), 10-19-2003 04:18:37

So the sun don't shine in Michigan? or you only go out at night? My neck gets red when I work due to sunburn about any state that I'm in or if I talk funny , or carry a gun on a tractor....grow up Kurt

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Van

10-19-2003 04:38:22

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to KURT (mi), 10-19-2003 04:18:37

We carry guns in our trucks and our tractors in Arkansas, guess us rednecks will stay home in the south where its safer. But I wouldn't call anyone a yankee and tell them something is yankeeish. No offence taken

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Stan TN

10-19-2003 18:58:39

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Van, 10-19-2003 04:38:22

Don't yuh jest love it, them yanks cain't even spell y'all.

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Dieselrider

10-20-2003 19:48:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Stan TN, 10-19-2003 18:58:39

Thank you for the spelling lesson.I hope it didn't interupt your possum stew and corn pone.

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Dieselrider

10-19-2003 06:21:14

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Van, 10-19-2003 04:38:22

You boys think that you have a patend on being redneck just because your south of the mason dixen you got another thing comin. I'm from Pa. and my neck is as red as any o yuall.

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David

10-19-2003 05:46:40

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Van, 10-19-2003 04:38:22

No doubt! Same here in Kentucky!, being called a Redneck is a compliment just like I was 20 before I realized that da** Yankee wasnt 1 word.

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JD -Tractor in New Yawk

10-19-2003 15:24:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to David, 10-19-2003 05:46:40

You ain't no redneck in Kentucky !!! You all are a dang Hillbilly !!!!

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Jim J

10-18-2003 21:36:31

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

A local welding shop makes a gun rack that fits a pickup seat and also makes mounts for your 4 wheeler. It wouldn't take much to make it fit your tractor.

Dan-D Gun Rack

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K.B.

10-18-2003 19:55:42

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

There must have been thirty empty .410 shells in the rock box on our IH 826 when we first got it. Guess that's where the last owner kept his shotgun.

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10-18-2003 19:19:17

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

Check your state game laws before shooting any game animal form any farm implement. Lots of states have laws prohibiting any shooting of wild game form any motorized conveyance. I know of a farmer who lost not only his firearm, but a fairly new combine when he was caught shooting a deer during harvest

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Newgen

10-18-2003 18:46:37

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

This reminds me of an old family story involving my dad. He had just taken delivery of a brand new John Deere 70. He always carried a shotgun on the tractor when he was plowing. Well a pheasant flew up ahead of him, he pulled out the shotgun, took aim, and shot the muffler off the new tractor!! He figured if he went to the dealer he'd gotten the tractor from to get a new muffler he would take a lot of ribbing, so he sent my mother to another dealer. Lo and behold, the first person mom ran into was a friend of theirs with a good sense of humor and an even better memory!! So needless to say, that was one he NEVER lived down!!

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Farmered

10-19-2003 06:30:46

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Newgen, 10-18-2003 18:46:37

Many years ago my father put up a pheasant when he was plowing with his John Deere GP. Then he saw a hunter in a strait line with him and the pheasant take aim. After a shout the hunter lowered his gun and retreated rapidly into some woods. I heard him tell of his close call many times. Ed

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kyhayman

10-18-2003 18:18:58

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

I have always kept a 'tractor gun'. For years I kept a simple .22 mag revolver (except during deer season; then I would usually carry a cheap 30/30 bungee corded to the fender). A few years ago I got a real deal on a Colt H-BAR .223. I usually just drop it behind the seat in the cab. If I'm on an open tractor I'll stll use the bungee cords. A tractor gun is going to live a hard life so I like somethign with composite stocks and either stainless or like the Colt, a rust resistant steel. You do want to check your local laws. KY prohibts deer hunting (taking your shot) from a vehicle and limits your magazine capacity (I usually carry 2-20 round mags in my Colt.) I had my .270 with me one day and only had 4 shells and saw 2 coyotes (and I am a firm believer that anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice).

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Les...fortunate

10-18-2003 17:58:21

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

I'm not sure exactly how he carried it, but one of my tree workers claims to have shot more deer from the seat of his skidder when he was logging than any other way. And I have no reason to doubt him.

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bob

10-18-2003 22:18:05

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Les...fortunate, 10-18-2003 17:58:21

Deer pay no attention to me skidding with dozer. Run across right in front of me; sometimes think i'll hit'em & you know how slow a dozer moves. My buddy walked up behind one & slapped it on the butt(you wanna see speed? shoulda seen that!) so intently was it watching me.

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marlowe

10-18-2003 17:24:53

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Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to john, 10-18-2003 17:18:38

in wi. we have to have it in a case and unloaded just like in a car or truck

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Flyin Farmall

10-19-2003 18:14:08

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to marlowe, 10-18-2003 17:24:53

Actually,in Wi.you can shoot from a tractor in the "intense harvest zone".fyi

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Dave_Id

10-18-2003 18:49:01

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to marlowe, 10-18-2003 17:24:53

Who gave these people jurisdiction to come on your land and search your tractor?

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Steve - IN

10-18-2003 22:52:37

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Dave_Id, 10-18-2003 18:49:01

Dave,

You've gotta remember that July 4, 1776, we never Declared that every man is endowed by his Creator with certain unalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

You've got to remember that a Supreme Court Justice never said that the power to tax is the power to destroy.

You've got to remember that the 2nd Ammendment is said by "legal scholars" to only apply to states; not to individuals.

You've got to remember that the interstate commerce clause in the US Constitution gives the Feds power to regulate things that cross state lines -- like wild critters.

You've got to remember that there is no private property -- it all belongs to the state. Doubt that? Check your property tax bill lately. You're just renting the place.

You've got to remember that old Beatles song: "Back in the USSR".

Welcome home, American.

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Stick

10-18-2003 21:00:00

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Dave_Id, 10-18-2003 18:49:01

> Who gave these people jurisdiction to come on your land and search your tractor?

Hmmm, could that be the duly elected government, of the people, by the people, and for the people, that created the DNR, or whoever game wardens work for in your state, and gave them said jurisdiction? Or do you think you are immune to the laws of your country and/or state as long as you are on your own land? Try murdering someone on your own land and see if you get off!

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Dave_Id

10-18-2003 21:15:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Stick, 10-18-2003 21:00:00

I don't know what kind of Police State you live in Stick, but last I heard, you needed a warrant or at least probably cause to enter any mans domain. One of our basic Constitutional rights protects us from unlawful search and seizure, and the 2nd Amendment gives us the right to bear Arms, regardless what your local boneheads call law. I certainly wasn't talking about murder here, unless of course, you feel killing a ground squirrel is murder???

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Hal/WA

10-18-2003 22:38:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Dave_Id, 10-18-2003 21:15:09

A search warrant may or may not be necessary.

I would be careful about definitions here. And state law and case law. The right to privacy in a vehicle is much less than it is in a persons home. A game warden that hears a tractor doing field work, then hears a shot, and then hears the tractor shut down might very well have enough information to investigate. If he then sees the only person around, the tractor driver running over to a downed buck, I think a judge would support a search of the tractor. And if a freshly fired rifle was found there and shooting from a tractor is illegal, I would expect the tractor driver to be charged and convicted.

It might be a good idea to find out if hunting from a tractor being operated in a field is or is not legal in your state or area. Most areas prohibit "road hunting", but checking with the game department before shooting game animals from a tractor might save a lot of hassle.

Then again, if you are farming a large area and are not near a road, it is unlikely that anyone would ever know if you happened to harvest a buck from your tractor.....

I would be worried about my gun being contaminated by dust from the farming or getting banged up. I get filthy when I do field work, especially summer fallowing. Maybe with a cab it would be OK.

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Stick

10-18-2003 21:17:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Dave_Id, 10-18-2003 21:15:09

Nope, not at all. Just that game wardens have a ton more jurisdiction than many people believe. Get caught breaking hunting laws and see.

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Dieselrider

10-19-2003 17:38:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Stick, 10-18-2003 21:17:59

There is something I can't quite understand about the "State owned animals". If the state truely owns the animals then why don't they pay for the damages the animal does just like the average guy who's animals cause damage to someone else? Such as when they run into your vehicle or eat your crops. Or if the state does not accept that responsibility then shouldn't the animals that feed off your land actually belong to you and therefore be delt with as you see fit? I know we live in the best country in the world and there are many who don't even dare dream of the freedoms we have but, seems like the Government putting itself above the laws it levys on everone else.

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Right side

10-18-2003 18:41:44

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Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to marlowe, 10-18-2003 17:24:53

Isn't Wisconsin a communist country though?

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Steve - IN

10-18-2003 23:06:03

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Right side, 10-18-2003 18:41:44

Yup, that's what I heard.

The leaders in Madison tried to defect to the USSR - but found it didn't exist anymore. Then they tried to defect to China - but found they'd become the world's biggest capitalists. Then they tried to defect to Cuba. They may find some traction there. You'll know for sure when the - "I'm from Milwaukee and I outta know" song is replace by the "Rum and Coca Cola" Cuba libre song. Stay tuned.

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buickanddeere

10-18-2003 19:36:04

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Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to Right side, 10-18-2003 18:41:44

In Ontario Conservation Officers have more search,seizure and enter any vehicle/building within 7 years after a crime may have been committed without a warrant. I ticked one power hungry little twerp off by pointing out how they killed some wild turkeys trapping and relocating them just prior to a severe winter storm. And getting the local MPP,MNR head office and the Ontario Ombudsmen involved when they messed up the moose hunt draw tags. The little prick busted me for hunting deer with a farmers licence that I was entitled to as a land owner but living in the city at the time. Judge threw the case out in two minutes. Didn't cost the CO a cent but my lawyer's bill was $1700.00. Natives here are untouched as they gill net an entire river for spawning Walleye but the MNR are cutting our possession limits to four instead of being politically incorrect. Here a firearm cannot be discharged from any vehicle with a motor. Boats have to have the prop out of the water and all motion stopped. Can't keep a firearm in the backwindow of a truck either, was considered "intimidating" by our female prime minister. She lasted a few weeks in office but the gun grabbers who came later are even worse banning many guns and registering the rest..

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Steve - IN

10-18-2003 23:00:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: gunracks on tractors in reply to buickanddeere, 10-18-2003 19:36:04

Read and Englishman, John Locke, about the natural right of man.

Then read a Virginian, Thomas Jefferson, about how it's good to have a revolution every 20 to 50 years.

Sounds like you need a bit of a revolution up there -- lots more so than we do down here.

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